was Roberto Duran really that great?

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  • dino
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    #41
    Originally posted by morancito
    Prime Duran vs Prime Chavez at 135 is the single best fantasy fight that could ever be made. And both of those guys destroy Mosley, Whitaker and Mayweather at 135. Easy.
    hey dumb ass..u forgot 1 thing..whitaker did beat chavez...chavez and duran werent gifted fighters like mayweather and mosley were....chavez bulit up his record fighting bums in mexico..and every good fighter duran fought he lost

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    • whdempsey
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      #42
      Originally posted by Mike Tyson Jr.
      I just got some new fights into
      my collection. I got the one with
      Roberto Duran against Tommy Herns.
      My uncle keeps saying Duran was so great.
      I saw the tape when Duran quit against Sugar
      Ray too. Now seeing Tommy Herns knock him out
      with one punch. Why do people keep saying Duran
      is so great especially old people.
      Yes he was. Don't forget the way that he pushed Hagler just before being knocked out by Hearns. Also, that was one of only two knockout losses on his record. And don't forget Leonard-Duran I, either. Plus, he won a middleweight belt when he was 38. 25 pounds above his best weight he had enough to win a belt.
      I mean, unless you're willing to hold Hearns losses against him, too or Leonard's draw with Hearns and his losses as well, then you have to admit that Duran was a great fighter.

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        #43
        Originally posted by dino
        I'm a friggin' idiot
        Yes you are. Ignorant, too. Strong work.

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        • dino
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          #44
          Originally posted by whdempsey
          Yes you are. Ignorant, too. Strong work.
          dumb ass i didnt even put that there u geek..ur some lame ass from the suburbs whos never been in a fight in ur life nonthe less box just like most of the other ppl on here..all u do is know popular ppl...

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          • morancito
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            #45
            Originally posted by dino
            hey dumb ass..u forgot 1 thing..whitaker did beat chavez...chavez and duran werent gifted fighters like mayweather and mosley were....chavez bulit up his record fighting bums in mexico..and every good fighter duran fought he lost
            And you forgot another thing, you idiot. Chavez fought Sweet Pea a couple years past his prime, and at 147 Lbs. That's two weight categories heavier. Chavez's best weight was 135. But I guess you don't know anything about that, you being a dumb**** and all.

            And you're totally exposed in your ******ity when you deny Duran's greatness. Duran, who was the king of the lightweights during the 70's and won the ****ing MIDDLEWEIGHT title 10 years later.

            ******.

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            • oldgringo
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              #46
              Originally posted by morancito
              And you forgot another thing, you idiot. Chavez fought Sweet Pea a couple years past his prime, and at 147 Lbs. That's two weight categories heavier. Chavez's best weight was 135. But I guess you don't know anything about that, you being a dumb**** and all.

              And you're totally exposed in your ******ity when you deny Duran's greatness. Duran, who was the king of the lightweights during the 70's and won the ****ing MIDDLEWEIGHT title 10 years later.

              ******.

              Their fight was actually at 140...and Chavez wasn't that far off his prime. He was somewhat slowed, but hey look the judges evened his weaknesses out by robbing Whitaker so its all good.

              Edit: Check that maybe it was at 147 I forget. I know both guys came in around 140 tho.
              Last edited by oldgringo; 02-09-2005, 05:35 PM.

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              • morancito
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                #47
                Originally posted by oldgringo
                Their fight was actually at 140...and Chavez wasn't that far off his prime. He was somewhat slowed, but hey look the judges evened his weaknesses out by robbing Whitaker so its all good.

                Edit: Check that maybe it was at 147 I forget. I know both guys came in around 140 tho.
                The fight was for the WBC Welterweight title. JC came in weighting 142, while Sweet Pea was at 145.

                I know JC wasn't that far off his prime. That's why I said "two years" past his prime. And when you take into account Chavez workload, two years is a hell of a lot.

                Chavez at light and, to a minor degree, at light welter, was unstoppable.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by dino
                  hey dumb ass..u forgot 1 thing..whitaker did beat chavez...chavez and duran werent gifted fighters like mayweather and mosley were....chavez bulit up his record fighting bums in mexico..and every good fighter duran fought he lost
                  Your full of it Duran beat Sugar among others. What a dumb post.

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                  • chase
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                    #49
                    roberto duran boxed in 5 differnt decades, won 4 world titles, beat every light weight going, BUT he aint amercian :O that why some hate him, think 5 differnt decades, never be seen again, in his prime he beat srl and out of his prime nearly beat hagler, it seems to me if you aint from the usa you are crap,srl was good hagler was good herns was good but duran was the best fighter ever seen,

                    Originally Posted by dino
                    hey dumb ass..u forgot 1 thing..whitaker did beat chavez...chavez and duran werent gifted fighters like mayweather and mosley were....chavez bulit up his record fighting bums in mexico..and every good fighter duran fought he lost

                    lmao think you are the dum arse m8,

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                    • Run
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by jose
                      Yes Duran was that great. All thos fights you mentioned all happend when Duran was already past his prime and fighting well above his natural weight.

                      Prime Duran ruled the Lightweight division for a decade.
                      You know,

                      the same I feel: can be said about Shane Mosley.

                      People do not give him any credit because they have only seen him fight at welter and light middle. He Ruled his division with an Iron fist.



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