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  • Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
    Of course it's a lowball offer, irrespective of what he's earnt in the past.

    The fight can realistically gross $70-80m and possibly more.

    Canelo can't earn huge money against any other guy.

    Yes, he deserves more money. But he doesn't deserve anything like 75%.
    Of your projected gross, how much do you think will be available for purses? If the network is taking roughly half off the top, that leaves 40M. So the first offer of 10M is essentially 25% of your projected purse money plus the upside if the ppv buys exceed a set number. So how is that low ball? Sure it's not the 30-35% you feel Trip deserves but it's not low ball.

    You still haven't answered my question, what are the drawbacks to signing a deal today for a fight 10 months from now?

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    • Originally posted by !!WAR MIKEY!! View Post
      lol why cause I laugh at an idiot who priced himself out of the fight to duck an ass whooping, these guys are just humans if they too scared to fight we cant make them.
      You're a boxing fan, so what on earth would be funny about this fight never happening?

      How the **** is he pricing himself out?

      All that's happened is that K2 want to sit down to reach a compromise on a percentage.

      Oscar is the one who is pricing Canelo out.

      I don't think it's an exaggeration to predict that the fight could gross anywhere between $70-80m, if not more.

      So how the **** is a 10m flat fee fair, just on the basis that Canelo is more popular?

      It's an absolute joke, and so is anybody who advocates it.

      There is nothing wrong with Canelo getting more. But he doesn't deserve anything like a 75% split in his favour. It's laughable.

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      • Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
        Is it because it's too long and you can't read?
        You really are an idiot if you don't think ggg is holding up the fight.
        You're too busy swinging of ggg nutts that you fail to realize the truth! You need to be a man and stop riding another man's nutts! Your disgracing yourself!
        No, it's because you're a complete spastic with no concept of anything.

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        • Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
          You are as bright as an eclipse.

          Read the posts carefully.

          You might learn something.
          Learn something...such as recognizing obvious sarcasm?

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          • Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
            Yes they do need to fight each other and I do feel that the fight will happen. But ggg has the contract in front of him and won't sign so who's holding up the fight? 10 million is more than fair so what's the problem? In order to to become an A-side you have to beat one and ggg has never done that!
            This is his chance but he's holding out???
            This fight will never do Mayweather ppv numbers so IDK what the **** he's,waiting to sign?
            So a guy can send a BS contract out, but if the opponent doesn't sign it, it's he who's holding up the fight? Get real.

            Look, do some realistic sums based of PPV fights in the past.

            This fight would be huge.

            Again, it's no exaggeration to predict that it could do anywhere between $70-80m. And that's just the PPV.

            You can't give someone a flat fee from a fight of that magnitude.

            $10m is not fair.

            Canelo can't make this kind of money against any other opponent apart from Floyd.

            There's nothing wrong with a percentage split in Canelo's favour. I have no issue with that whatsoever.

            It's not K2 who's holding up the fight, it's Oscar De La Hoya. He is the one who doesn't want the fight until next Septemember, and he's the one who won't sit down to reach a fair compromise on a percentage split.

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            • Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
              And your IQ is showing at a 3 you ****** punk!
              Your skin color is showing fgut.

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              • Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
                No, it's because you're a complete spastic with no concept of anything.
                Punk I've forgotten more about boxing then you'll ever know! You sit here all day and write idiotic posts pretending to know WTF your talking about but you really don't! Your Just an idiot! Your too busy playing with another man's **** in your mouth that you fail to see the truth! Like I said earlier, you need to be a man and quit swinging off another man's nutts! Your the true definition of a nuttrider!
                Your just a punk! I know if I had you in front of me I would easily make you my *****! Then you'd be swinging off my nutts too!

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                • Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
                  So a guy can send a BS contract out, but if the opponent doesn't sign it, it's he who's holding up the fight? Get real.

                  Look, do some realistic sums based of PPV fights in the past.

                  This fight would be huge.

                  Again, it's no exaggeration to predict that it could do anywhere between $70-80m. And that's just the PPV.

                  You can't give someone a flat fee from a fight of that magnitude.

                  $10m is not fair.

                  Canelo can't make this kind of money against any other opponent apart from Floyd.

                  There's nothing wrong with a percentage split in Canelo's favour. I have no issue with that whatsoever.

                  It's not K2 who's holding up the fight, it's Oscar De La Hoya. He is the one who doesn't want the fight until next Septemember, and he's the one who won't sit down to reach a fair compromise on a percentage split.
                  Ten million is more then fair! He can accept that or go back to fighting bums for a million a fight. That simple

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                  • Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
                    Once again, he's just earnt $5m against Brook.

                    He has the option of fighting at SMW.

                    If DeGale beats Jack and Smith and GG were to move up, with a great promotion, that could make huge money in the U.K.

                    How many PPV's would Canelo-BJS do, when BJS hasn't had any U.S. recognition?

                    How many PPV's would Canelo-Jacobs do?

                    Canelo can make good money, but he can't make huge money without GG.

                    GG would give him his biggest payday. It works both ways.

                    Without a big name opponent, Canelo doesn't do huge numbers.

                    Forget the 100,000 that GG did in the past. That is now firmly in the past. Again, he's just done 500,000 with Brook and he has great casual appeal, especially in the U.K. and he's gaining more popularity with each fight.

                    80-20 in Canelo's favour?

                    You must be smoking the same stuff as Oscar.

                    It's laughable.
                    It's is indeed laughable, that it took a name opponent from Europe, and a $20 price tag for Golovkin to get a decent PPV sale number (which really translates to $10M in revenue + gate/merchandise = not a lot), and yet you still insist that he's some box office monster deserving of a bigger split. His last fight made as much revenue in PPV sales as Alvarez is offering him to fight, and $10M isn't fair? Herp derp lol

                    If Golovkin is going to elevate himself in a major way, then he's going to have to accept that he can't call any shots in this negotiation, because Alvarez is content not fighting him it would seem. He can either ride out the rest of his career making $2M paydays on HBO (honestly not a bad deal), or he can bow in this negotiation, beat Alvarez, and become the box office powerhouse in the sport.
                    Last edited by doom_specialist; 11-01-2016, 02:05 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
                      Wow!

                      And you can't see the HUGE difference in circumstances there?

                      Really?

                      Also, he hasnt given him 25%, they're still negotiating. But that's all he'd be entitled to from a purse bid in conjunction with the WBA's ruling.
                      10 million is more than enough to fight for 36 minutes. When he has the ability to pay most championship level fighters career high salaries on the regular THEN he can complain about 10 mill being too low. I want to see the fight and him just denying purses isn't making it any easier.

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