More irrelevant compubox or walking around weight?

[frantic fighter]

I'll begin with the one that irks me the most, walking around weight. I just don't understand the basis for bringing it up in a conversation about boxing. It's completely irrelevant, I'd say that most fighters are bloated in between fights, so the fact that a welterweight is 180 pounds, while inactive means zero. Compubox is another aspect used to judge the sport that I don't particularly care about. The numbers themselves aren't really an issue. The thing that bothers me is how people will view them in a vacuum,as if they can tell the entire story about a fight. Fighter A could have two rounds of high activity that skews the numbers overall or fighter B landed less in volume, but caused more damage with his punches. Then there is always human error,corruption, or incompetence to worry about.

[i got the keys]

I'll begin with the one that irks me the most, walking around weight. I just don't understand the basis for bringing it up in a conversation about boxing. It's completely irrelevant, I'd say that most fighters are bloated in between fights, so the fact that a welterweight is 180 pounds, while inactive means zero. Compubox is another aspect used to judge the sport that I don't particularly care about. The numbers themselves aren't really an issue. The thing that bothers me is how people will view them in a vacuum,as if they can tell the entire story about a fight. Fighter A could have two rounds of high activity that skews the numbers overall or fighter B landed less in volume, but caused more damage with his punches. Then there is always human error,corruption, or incompetence to worry about.

I agree...

A perfect compubox example of this was Mayweather vs Castillo I. When I watched it and scored it personally, I had Mayweather winning 116-112

[BM dnobagaV]

Compubox was a farce in the May-PAC fight

[Robbie Barrett]

Walking around weight easily. It has zero to do with the fight. Walking around weight means nothing.

[Scipio2009]

I'll begin with the one that irks me the most, walking around weight. I just don't understand the basis for bringing it up in a conversation about boxing. It's completely irrelevant, I'd say that most fighters are bloated in between fights, so the fact that a welterweight is 180 pounds, while inactive means zero. Compubox is another aspect used to judge the sport that I don't particularly care about. The numbers themselves aren't really an issue. The thing that bothers me is how people will view them in a vacuum,as if they can tell the entire story about a fight. Fighter A could have two rounds of high activity that skews the numbers overall or fighter B landed less in volume, but caused more damage with his punches. Then there is always human error,corruption, or incompetence to worry about.

Walkaround weight, imo, simply helps give an observer a gauge for what they could expect; finding out that Edwin Rodriguez, when he was due to fight Andre Ward, was coming down in weight from over 200lbs, gave folks a good gauge (after the fact) of what he was facing.

And, generally speaking, a decent rule of thumb seems to be that the human body can boil off ~15lbs from a fit frame, without having much impact on physical performance.

Even if a welterweight walks around at 180lbs, if they can get into the low 160s before starting the boil down, things wouldn't be impossible. Any higher than that, and the logical math no longer makes sense (even if they were able to make 147, a fighter coming down from 190 sitting on the couch, would be unlikely to perform on fight night).

If the bloat gets beyond where a fighter can work their way down to, before getting into the boil, the fighter can't perform.

[LoadedWraps]

I'll begin with the one that irks me the most, walking around weight. I just don't understand the basis for bringing it up in a conversation about boxing. It's completely irrelevant, I'd say that most fighters are bloated in between fights, so the fact that a welterweight is 180 pounds, while inactive means zero. Compubox is another aspect used to judge the sport that I don't particularly care about. The numbers themselves aren't really an issue. The thing that bothers me is how people will view them in a vacuum,as if they can tell the entire story about a fight. Fighter A could have two rounds of high activity that skews the numbers overall or fighter B landed less in volume, but caused more damage with his punches. Then there is always human error,corruption, or incompetence to worry about.

Walk around weight is relevant when it comes to considering if a fighter should move up or not naturally. If you walk around at another weight class and above and you move and feel well training at that weight then cutting to meet a lower weight class may not be necessary or ideal.

[b00g13man]

Walk around weight.

[W1LL]

Compubox is a tool to help them further their own agenda. They pull numbers out of the air to back up the bogus hyping/scoring.

[frantic fighter]

Compubox is a tool to help them further their own agenda. They pull numbers out of the air to back up the bogus hyping/scoring.

I've been thinking this for awhile. Some fights you can see guys mises punches all night,but end up with a 50% power connect.

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

compubox is more irrelevant. some of the numbers that get put up is just pure fantasy

walking around weight is HIGHLY RELEVANT - bHop talks about how he will size fighters up when they are out of training, so he can tell if they are keeping in shape or not. when a fighter gets into training camp for a fight, it's not supposed to be a fatcamp