One man's effort to change the boxing game

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  • Motorcity Cobra
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    One man's effort to change the boxing game

    Kevin Iole
    Yahoo Sports combat columnist
    Oct 28, 2016, 2:24 PM

    Several years ago, when a dispute over how the money should be split prevented a rubber match between boxing legends Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr., it got Don House to thinking.

    How could these veteran fighters not figure out how to divvy up somewhere in the neighborhood of $24 million, House wondered.

    House is a boxing trainer – among his fighters is former WBC heavyweight champion Bermane Stiverne – as well as a UFC cut man. He understands that the fight game is a business, and leaving all that money on the table made little sense to him.

    “They both thought they deserved the better end of a 60-40 split, and so we never got that third fight,” House said of Hopkins and Jones. “I thought that what made sense was to give them both a base pay of $6 million and have them fight for the other $12 million. Make it actual prize fighting.

    “So you say, a 12-round fight, have them fight for a million dollars a round. Each of them gets $6 million guaranteed and for every round they win, they get that extra million.”

    That, in essence, is what led to House’s plans for Full Throttle Boxing, a promotion he conceived of that will incentivize fighters to compete hard in every round.

    The idea, which he hopes to launch next year, is an eight-man tournament within one weight class, which would leave the finalists on a given night fighting three times.

    He said there is a possibility of having four weight classes going at the same time, though that is to be determined.

    All fights would be three rounds. Opening tier bouts would be worth $9,000 total, or $3,000 a round. The winner of a round would get 80 percent of the $3,000, or $2,400, with the loser winning $600.

    Second-tier bouts would be worth around $18,000, with the winner of a round getting $4,800 per round and the loser getting $1,200. The finale would be worth $27,000, with each round going for $9,000.

    There would be two opening round tournaments in each weight class Full Throttle decides to do. The winners of those tournaments would go to Las Vegas to fight for the title, which would be a 10-round fight.

    In that case, House said the payout would be $12,000 a round, with the same 80/20 split.....

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    #2
    Skills pays bills.. Really interesting concept.. A lot of modern day boxers would back out of the idea for sure..

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      #3
      Too much ego in the sport. But fair concept

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        A good enough idea, but you're putting a lot of faith in the hands of judges properly scoring rounds, with literal money on the line.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          A good enough idea, but you're putting a lot of faith in the hands of judges properly scoring rounds, with literal money on the line.

          This /\


          I've seen waaay too many fights where, even though the right fighter won, you see the scorecards at the end and you're like "how the fúck did that judge give the 8th round to the other guy?"

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          • Eff Pandas
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            Never been a huge fan of one night tournaments first off so meh overall with this idea. Although I am a fan of prize fighter which I think do that format best of anyone I've seen do it in boxing.

            The win rounds get paid angle is interesting, but seems a bit much. If you are going for a winner gets paid more angle just give flat amounts to show & a win bonus. Keep **** simple.

            And curious what do you make if you lose the first two rounds of a fight, but KO the guy in the 3rd. Sounds like the guy who got KO'd would have made more than you which is kinda ****** & would seem to defeat the purpose of this whole concept. But maybe I missed something about that or something to clarify that sorta situation idk.

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            • Canelo and GGG
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              #7
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              Kevin Iole
              Yahoo Sports combat columnist
              Oct 28, 2016, 2:24 PM

              Several years ago, when a dispute over how the money should be split prevented a rubber match between boxing legends Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr., it got Don House to thinking.

              How could these veteran fighters not figure out how to divvy up somewhere in the neighborhood of $24 million, House wondered.

              House is a boxing trainer – among his fighters is former WBC heavyweight champion Bermane Stiverne – as well as a UFC cut man. He understands that the fight game is a business, and leaving all that money on the table made little sense to him.

              “They both thought they deserved the better end of a 60-40 split, and so we never got that third fight,” House said of Hopkins and Jones. “I thought that what made sense was to give them both a base pay of $6 million and have them fight for the other $12 million. Make it actual prize fighting.

              “So you say, a 12-round fight, have them fight for a million dollars a round. Each of them gets $6 million guaranteed and for every round they win, they get that extra million.”

              That, in essence, is what led to House’s plans for Full Throttle Boxing, a promotion he conceived of that will incentivize fighters to compete hard in every round.

              The idea, which he hopes to launch next year, is an eight-man tournament within one weight class, which would leave the finalists on a given night fighting three times.

              He said there is a possibility of having four weight classes going at the same time, though that is to be determined.

              All fights would be three rounds. Opening tier bouts would be worth $9,000 total, or $3,000 a round. The winner of a round would get 80 percent of the $3,000, or $2,400, with the loser winning $600.

              Second-tier bouts would be worth around $18,000, with the winner of a round getting $4,800 per round and the loser getting $1,200. The finale would be worth $27,000, with each round going for $9,000.

              There would be two opening round tournaments in each weight class Full Throttle decides to do. The winners of those tournaments would go to Las Vegas to fight for the title, which would be a 10-round fight.

              In that case, House said the payout would be $12,000 a round, with the same 80/20 split.....

              Read more at Yahoo Sports
              I think you are going 2 far here my friend

              1.you need to trust in judges 100%
              2,Nobody would fight cuse everybody want to make money no matter what result.
              3.Fighters want to make money no matter of out come cuse they want to have safe future

              For example you can Break left hand in 1st and lose all rounds in defens,then you have ****ed up hand and no money.

              In this system that we have now its possible to make good fights,sometimes ppl just dont have interest in it,But house system would cuse even more ducking.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
                I think you are going 2 far here my friend

                1.you need to trust in judges 100%
                2,Nobody would fight cuse everybody want to make money no matter what result.
                3.Fighters want to make money no matter of out come cuse they want to have safe future

                For example you can Break left hand in 1st and lose all rounds in defens,then you have ****ed up hand and no money.

                In this system that we have now its possible to make good fights,sometimes ppl just dont have interest in it,But house system would cuse even more ducking.
                Yea, I don't support this system

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