Comments Thread For: Marquez: I Beat Pacquiao Four Times, No Reason For Fifth Time!

[StefanTosic]

Man, I really like Marquez, hell of a fighter, but he gets on my nerves so much. It looks like in his opinion he's still unbeaten. He was crying about the Bradley loss, and Bradley beat him in clear fashion. I had it 8-4 in Bradley favor.

The first Pacquiao fight he got a draw because of a judge who admittedly scored the first round 10-7 instead of 10-6. While it's true that he outboxed Pacquiao during the most of their first fight, however he was behind on cards thanks to the knockdowns.

Second fight was wonderful, if there was no knockdown I would have scored it a draw, but because of the KD I had Pac winning it by a single point.

Now I have to rewatch the third one again, very carefully. I rewatched it the last year with no sound and while the first half was extremely close, I had Pacquiao winning the most of the rounds in the second half. It looked to me like Marquez gassed after the 6th round and I had it 8-4 in Pac's favor. But I'm going to rewatch it again, very soon, because I'm still seeing a lot of people giving it to Marquez.

The 4th fight, PED's or not, was one of the greatest fights ever in boxing history (my favorite!) and there's no debating about the results. I do believe 100% that he was on PED's, but I'm not looking for the excuses. Surely it was unfair and gave him adventage but I don't want to take it away from him. I'm sure Pacquiao have probably fought against at least a couple of PED users and he was able to beat them.

I'm not knocking him for not wanting the 5th fight, most of fans don't want it anyways, but this is the lamest excuse. I'm sure he knows that there's no way he beats Pacquiao again and so he prefers to end their rivalry to end on a good note. I personnally think that there's no need for another one because it would be an easy fight for Pacquiao at this stage and it wouldn't be meaningful, but I have to give it to him for chasing the 5th fight against his ******nite! He's hell of a competitor, a real warrior.

[GOD-FR33]

*****....

Roidquez is a *****! It seems that the only way you beat Manny, after the first Morales fight, is to cheat. That's how good he is. Manny won ALL three fights leading up to the cheat in the 4th fight. Why? Because he always out throws and out lands Roidquez. It's that simple. In the 3rd fight, Roidquez gassed at the end. He ran the entire 12th round and gave the fight away. Whose fault was that? Smh. This is why I do not like him. All he does is whine like a little girl. Manny gave him 4 fights but he can't give Manny 1!?!?!?

He KNOWS he gets stopped in a 5th fight. That's why he won't fight Manny again. Just like Floyd won't. They both know they got away with cheating and it will not happen again. FACTS. So in conclusion, **** you Juan!!!!!! Without Manny, your career wouldn't be ****! Don't forget that, *****!

[SN!PER]

Everyone, including Marquez knows he would lose #5.

[MrRolltide91]

Lol he got jokes

[Caught Square]

I remember Marquez also saying he feels like the only reason Manny gave him the rematches was because it was never decisive and had he won in decisive fashion like Marquez he wouldn't have rematched.

He's probably right, Pacquiao did wear a shirt saying 'finished business' in the post fight interview after being knocked out (obviously he was assuming he'd win)

Still, I think Marquez would fight him a 5th time in irresistible circumstances, say for example Pac beat Floyd last year and had 3 of the belts. Deep down he knows it's too risky otherwise and would rather leave it on the highest note possible, that's up to him. He's probably rooting for Vargas to beat Manny so he can try to get his 5th division belt without fighting Manny.

[aboutfkntime]

The only time that Marquez clearly won he was actually losing until that KO.

The only time that Marquez clearly won was also the only time that Marquez knocked down Manny and did it twice!!! Memo made sure that Marquez would win that one clearly. Marquez did the rest.

right, and when did Pacquiao clearly win ?

[aboutfkntime]

I'm a fan of his and I agree that he doesn't get the credit he deserves. I just get annoyed when he himself doesn't give his opponents any credit. I thought he had every right to complain after his 3rd fight with Pacman, but the decisions in the first two fights were basically decided by one point. Pac should have won the 1st fight on points, but I didn't see him complain.

Apparently he was robbed against Chris John and Norwood. I haven't seen those fights myself, but a lot of fans agree that he was robbed.

His victim like attitude after losing to Bradley was just unnecessary. I don't know how he thought he won that one.

boxing is a fkn hard way to earn a living

those 6 (real tough) camps you mentioned above cost Marquez 3 years of his life

I'm not sure you understand that point

[aboutfkntime]

I remember Marquez also saying he feels like the only reason Manny gave him the rematches was because it was never decisive and had he won in decisive fashion like Marquez he wouldn't have rematched.

He's probably right, Pacquiao did wear a shirt saying 'finished business' in the post fight interview after being knocked out (obviously he was assuming he'd win)

Still, I think Marquez would fight him a 5th time in irresistible circumstances, say for example Pac beat Floyd last year and had 3 of the belts. Deep down he knows it's too risky otherwise and would rather leave it on the highest note possible, that's up to him. He's probably rooting for Vargas to beat Manny so he can try to get his 5th division belt without fighting Manny.

really ? ahahahah wtf, I never noticed that LMAO

[paulf]

You cant really blame the guy, Arum would be pulling out ALL the stops to rob him again.

Should have retired after the 4th fight, would have been one of the most epic career endings of all time.

[The Akbar One]

Man, I really like Marquez, hell of a fighter, but he gets on my nerves so much. It looks like in his opinion he's still unbeaten. He was crying about the Bradley loss, and Bradley beat him in clear fashion. I had it 8-4 in Bradley favor.

The first Pacquiao fight he got a draw because of a judge who admittedly scored the first round 10-7 instead of 10-6. While it's true that he outboxed Pacquiao during the most of their first fight, however he was behind on cards thanks to the knockdowns.

Second fight was wonderful, if there was no knockdown I would have scored it a draw, but because of the KD I had Pac winning it by a single point.

Now I have to rewatch the third one again, very carefully. I rewatched it the last year with no sound and while the first half was extremely close, I had Pacquiao winning the most of the rounds in the second half. It looked to me like Marquez gassed after the 6th round and I had it 8-4 in Pac's favor. But I'm going to rewatch it again, very soon, because I'm still seeing a lot of people giving it to Marquez.

The 4th fight, PED's or not, was one of the greatest fights ever in boxing history (my favorite!) and there's no debating about the results. I do believe 100% that he was on PED's, but I'm not looking for the excuses. Surely it was unfair and gave him adventage but I don't want to take it away from him. I'm sure Pacquiao have probably fought against at least a couple of PED users and he was able to beat them.

I'm not knocking him for not wanting the 5th fight, most of fans don't want it anyways, but this is the lamest excuse. I'm sure he knows that there's no way he beats Pacquiao again and so he prefers to end their rivalry to end on a good note. I personnally think that there's no need for another one because it would be an easy fight for Pacquiao at this stage and it wouldn't be meaningful, but I have to give it to him for chasing the 5th fight against his ******nite! He's hell of a competitor, a real warrior.

People have to stop complaining about the judge in the first fight, while ignoring that the ref blew a call in the first round also. Pacquiao punched Marquez when he was clearly already down. Boxers have been DQ'd for that. Pac didn't even get deducted a point.