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  • #51
    Originally posted by HeadShots View Post
    how could he be a hall of famer when he's not dominant. nor does he have any HOF wins?


    are you sure Froch gets in the HOF? i mean..... eubank sr and benn aren't in. what makes you so certain Froch gets in.
    See now I'm confused. You're back to resumes even though you just admitted because of Ward's lack of ticket sales and bad relationship with the media he's not likely to get in.

    Since we're back on resumes can you name a fighter on GGG's resume equal to or better than Froch, Abraham, Kessler, Dirrell or Ward?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
      See now I'm confused. You're back to resumes even though you just admitted because of Ward's lack of ticket sales and bad relationship with the media he's not likely to get in.

      Since we're back on resumes can you name a fighter on GGG's resume equal to or better than Froch, Abraham, Kessler, Dirrell or Ward?
      lmao. check. mate.

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      • #53
        IBOF Modern Category


        Muhammad Ali
        Sammy Angott
        Fred Apostoli
        Alexis Arguello
        Henry Armstrong
        Carmen Basilio
        Wilfred Benitez
        Nino Benvenuti
        Jackie (Kid) Berg
        Jimmy Bivins
        Rid**** Bowe
        Joe Brown
        Ken Buchanan
        Charley Burley
        Joe Calzaghe
        Hector Camacho
        Orlando Canizales
        Miguel Canto
        Michael Carbajal
        Jimmy Carter
        Marcel Cerdan
        Antonio Cervantes
        Bobby Chacon
        Jeff Chandler
        Jung-Koo Chang
        Ezzard Charles
        Julio Cesar Chavez
        Curtis Cokes
        Billy Conn
        Pipino Cuevas
        Oscar De La Hoya
        Roberto Duran

        Flash Elorde
        Jeff Fenech
        George Foreman
        Bob Foster
        Joe Frazier
        Gene Fullmer
        Khaosai Galaxy
        Victor Galindez
        Arturo Gatti
        Kid Gavilan
        Joey Giardello
        Wilfredo Gomez
        Humberto Gonzalez
        Billy Graham
        Rocky Graziano
        Emile Griffith
        Marvelous Marvin Hagler
        Naseem Hamed
        (Fighting) Harada
        Thomas Hearns
        Virgil Hill
        Larry Holmes
        Beau Jack
        Lew Jenkins
        Eder Jofre
        Ingemar Johansson
        Harold Johnson
        Mark Johnson
        Cocoa Kid
        Ismael Laguna
        Jake LaMotta
        Sugar Ray Leonard
        Lennox Lewis
        Sonny Liston
        Nicolino Locche
        Duilio Loi
        Danny Lopez
        Ricardo Lopez
        Joe Louis
        Mike McCallum
        Barry McGuigan
        Ray Mancini
        Rocky Marciano
        Lloyd Marshall
        Joey Maxim
        Brian Mitchell
        Bob Montgomery
        Carlos Monzon
        Archie Moore
        Jose Napoles
        Azumah Nelson
        Terry Norris
        Ken Norton
        Ruben Olivares
        Carl (Bobo) Olson
        Carlos Ortiz
        Manuel Ortiz
        Carlos Palomino
        Laszlo Papp
        Willie Pastrano
        Floyd Patterson
        Eusebio Pedroza
        Willie Pep
        Pascual Perez
        Eddie Perkins
        Lupe Pintor
        Aaron Pryor
        Dwight Muhammad Qawi
        Sugar Ramos
        Sugar Ray Robinson
        Luis Rodriguez
        Edwin Rosario
        Matthew Saad Muhammad
        Sandy Saddler
        Vicente Saldivar
        Salvador Sanchez
        Max Schmeling
        Michael Spinks
        **** Tiger
        Jose Torres
        Felix Trinidad
        Kostya Tszyu
        Randy Turpin
        Mike Tyson
        Jersey Joe Walcott
        Pernell Whitaker
        Holman Williams
        Ike Williams
        Chalky Wright
        Myung - Woo Yuh
        Tony Zale
        Hilario Zapata
        Daniel Zaragoza
        Carlos Zarate
        Fritzie Zivic


        very well balanced list of guys whom were draws, guys who werent but still had great resumes and some names we arent well versed on.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by HeadShots View Post
          GGG should stay at MW to take the defenses record. Staying at MW would be better for his career than going up to 168. especially if he hasn't grown out of the division. he's not a steroid cheat like others who grow their bodies over time with PEDs. RJJ. Toney. Mayweather. Ward(Victor Conte). etc.

          At this rate, he will take the consecutive KO defenses record too.

          All the while being one of the biggest draws in boxing.



          Dominant champion with multiple records that is exciting and draws great #'s.


          First ballot hall of famer.




          Ward on the other hand is over-hyped by a certain group due to the fact that this certain group are no longer dominant in boxing. Ward's resume is no better than Eubanks or Benn's. He is not a dominant champion and he skates by with close decisions. Froch is not an HOF lock because his best win is Bute. Froch had the draw but he simply does not have the resume. who is george groves? Kessler lost in his prime to Calzaghe and beat Froch.
          ^^^lol, look at this idiot.

          Come the end of this year, Andre Ward could logically be America's last male Olympic gold medalist boxer, former kingpin at 168lbs, and one fight from also being the kingpin at 175lbs, at all of 32 years of age (after all of 120 amateur fights and basically two years as a pro where he wasn't grinding through fight camps).

          Ward has at least another 3-5 years of prime boxing left, with the type of fundamental style that'd still have him keeping with prime fighters for a significant time after that if he wanted.

          Golovkin is 16 defenses of the WBA interim title into his run (Golovkin only got handed the WBA Super championship at the Daniel Geale fight, putting his defense record of the actual full world title at only 6), gets hit a ton in his fights, is already 34 years old, and put his body through 350 amateur fights before even turning pro.

          You add that he's literally fought no one, and arguing for a first-ballot induction makes you look foolish.

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          • #55
            Well as of right now Ward had the better resume. And the immediate future has Ward ahead because he is fighting Kov while GGG is fighting.....?

            Face it Zab Judah has a better resume then GGG

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            • #56
              Adrien Broner will get in the HOF before GGG.

              "Real talk"

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                See now I'm confused. You're back to resumes even though you just admitted because of Ward's lack of ticket sales and bad relationship with the media he's not likely to get in.

                Since we're back on resumes can you name a fighter on GGG's resume equal to or better than Froch, Abraham, Kessler, Dirrell or Ward?
                Its hard to guess who will be in HoF if Gatti is and Michalczewski is not,But i think resume is most immportant to get to HoF.with some exceptions.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
                  Well as of right now Ward had the better resume. And the immediate future has Ward ahead because he is fighting Kov while GGG is fighting.....?

                  Face it Zab Judah has a better resume then GGG
                  no he dosen't. Resume is not just wins. Losses against bums bring down your resume. Getting koed in the 2nd rd bring down your resume. GGG > JUDAH RESUME

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                  • #59
                    If Ward beats Kovalev this thread will be unadulterated blasphemy

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by NaijaD View Post
                      If Ward beats Kovalev this thread will be unadulterated blasphemy
                      Real talk my master.

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