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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostOk, my point was he didn't go right to Manny, same as in my other post the point was Danny was the lineal champ and the MAN at 140, Tim could've been but opted not to fight Khan and instead go to TR.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Posthttp://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/jrwelt.htm
You made a mistake. Danny was the lineal titlist when he beat Khan, something Bradley never did, in part because he walked away from fighting Khan. It's hard to argue Tim was the man at 140.
Remember, after Khan barely survived Maidana, he went back to fight in the UK. And everyone already was having flashbacks to Prescott... which they rightfully had, considering what Garcia would do to him two fights later.
The networks had been building up Bradley vs Alexander for quite a while. And it was two undefeated fighter in their prime arguably the #1 and #2 fighters at the time they fought, although the ring had Bradley #1 and Khan #2.
Taking that into context though, Khan only moved to the #2 spot after his win over Maidana, by which took place ~20days before Bradley vs Alexander.
Had their fight taken place before Khan's win over Maidana, Bradley vs Alexander would have been for the Ring Magazine belt.
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Originally posted by !! Shawn View PostWe can argue lineal all we want. The fact remains Bradley and Alexander were #1 were generally regarded as #2 in the division when they fought. Especially state side.
Remember, after Khan barely survived Maidana, he went back to fight in the UK. And everyone already was having flashbacks to Prescott... which they rightfully had, considering what Garcia would do to him two fights later.
The networks had been building up Bradley vs Alexander for quite a while. And it was two undefeated fighter in their prime arguably the #1 and #2 fighters at the time they fought, although the ring had Bradley #1 and Khan #2.
Taking that into context though, Khan only moved to the #2 spot after his win over Maidana, by which took place ~20days before Bradley vs Alexander.
Had their fight taken place before Khan's win over Maidana, Bradley vs Alexander would have been for the Ring Magazine belt.
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Originally posted by !! Shawn View PostKhan wasn't a big fight at the time, and not even close to as big as Pacquiao. He had just barely survived Maidana.
Also you have to consider the context. Tim Bradley moved to Top Rank to chase the Pacquiao fight.
Khan was working with Goldenboy. The Casamayor fight was Bradley's first fight with Top Rank. A stay busy until the Pacquiao fight.
Also, Khan lost to Lamont Peterson the month after Bradley fought Casamayor.
It's all fine and dandy to pretend a Khan fight made sense for anyone, but in reality. Going after Pacquiao was a much ballsier move.
I don't think you can call fighting the p4p #1 or #2 depending on who you ask, instead of Amir Khan a duck.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostOk, my point was he didn't go right to Manny, same as in my other post the point was Danny was the lineal champ and the MAN at 140, Tim could've been but opted not to fight Khan and instead go to TR.
Remember, Bradley vs Casamayor was the top undercard billing for Pacquiao vs Marquez 3.
It was not an option for Bradley. If he wanted Pacquiao he had to fight whoever Bob Arum put infront of him on the undercard of Pacquiao vs Marquez 3.
So lets not pretend that he just chose to fight Casamayor instead of someone more dangerous, when it was Arum picking a not so risky fight against a past his prime name opponent to keep Bradley warm for Pacquiao.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostFair points but still Bradley was never the Man while danny was. Doesn't make his resume better than Tim's. I was just clarifying that point.
Because going into his fight with Khan which was after Bradley vs Pacquiao, his only belts had been for the vacant WBC belt against Morales, who won the vacant WBC belt against Cano.
Danny definitely stuck around longer. But none of his titles were Lineal. We already established his WBC belt was won vacant.
His WBA belt was won vacant by Joan Guzman. It has no lineage before that.
Garcia was clearly the man at 140 after beating Khan and Matthysse, but Bradley had already jumped to 147 for Pacquiao at that point.
For Khan's part, he lost to Lamont Peterson, who Bradley mopped the floor with, inbetween Bradley's fights with Casamayor and Pacquiao.
And lets not get into how Garcia vs Khan was still for Khans WBA belt after Khan had just lost too Peterson...
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