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  • #11
    Herrera has made many looked bad, Danny was just another victim.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
      I wouldn't say Garcia got beat up but he got jabbed a bunch. Which is part of why he under performed because Herrera basically didn't throw much else but a jab (which is why he lost).

      Garcia is a decent boxer but his right hand is not that great and it was even worse back then, to counter a jab you need to bring the right hand over the top and Garcia is really a left hook guy so Herrera really never let him get to work with that punch because he jabbed and moved the correct way.

      It is really a fight that showed Garcia's limitation because without a good right hand it is impossible to box a guy in for a left hook to land on a guy that is actively trying to avoid left hooks. Since then he has done much better work with the right hand but still that weak right hand will cost him sooner than later at 147.
      Outside of Terrence Crawford when he comes up (and maybe Tim Bradley), I don't foresee another welterweight coming along the way to capitalize on the possible holes in Danny Garcia's game, especially with the continued improvement in his use of his right hand (and the weight cut no longer killing him, allowing him to actually sharpen up his boxing skills)

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Beercules View Post
        Green K sent
        Danny was weight drained for that fight. He should have moved up directly after the Matthysse fight. In saying that he still edged it in my book, pro boxing is about power stinky fighters like Mauricio will always be on the wrong end of the Quesadilla at the end of the night. The Peterson fight was not controversial he played track and field once he felt the power early and he loss,clearly and their isn't anything gay Leonard could say to change that. It's funny that you say you are fan,but sending green k's to whoever slanders the Puerto Rican great the best...😂

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        • #14
          Garcia isn't that good, his win over Matthyse was a huge win, but his left hook has become his only weapon and isn't as explosive as used to be.
          He is a one trick pony, knows how to get his left on the guy in front of him and the other punches aren't powerful enough and his boxing skills aren't that good, so he isn't here or there, he is in middle, a fighter that can box but can't outbox the boxers and a fighter that can brawl but can't outbrawl the brawlers, he isn't that good and that's it.
          Herrera kept himself out of the range of that left and outboxing him behind a strong jab.
          Peterson pivot away from the hook and counterpunched Garcia from both the inside and the outside.
          Khan was just being Khan, using good leads to throw fast combinations till he got tagged.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by frantic fighter View Post
            Danny was weight drained for that fight. He should have moved up directly after the Matthysse fight. In saying that he still edged it in my book, pro boxing is about power stinky fighters like Mauricio will always be on the wrong end of the Quesadilla at the end of the night. The Peterson fight was not controversial he played track and field once he felt the power early and he loss,clearly and their isn't anything gay Leonard could say to change that. It's funny that you say you are fan,but sending green k's to whoever slanders the Puerto Rican great the best...😂
            Power? Aren't you Ggg hate troll, probably Ward/Lara booster?

            In any case light punching Herrera hurt Garcia more than vice versa, and didn't fight negative at all.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by BM dnobagaV View Post
              Lmfao, Herrera mugged Danny to the tune of 9-3, 8-4.
              It was hardly competitive looking back at it
              ^^^9-3 on literally nothing but a left jab. lol, gtfoh

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              • #17
                Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                Power? Aren't you Ggg hate troll, probably Ward/Lara booster?

                In any case light punching Herrera hurt Garcia more than vice versa, and didn't fight negative at all.
                Bloody nose doesn't equate hurt,he stunk out the joint was still hurt to the body and ate right hands the only thing Mauricio landed was a jab to the body and arm punches. The guy doesn't no how to throw a power punch to save his life,if I was a judge he would never get the benefit of the doubt in close fights. I'm not a troll and not a huge fan of Lara or Ward. Unbiased is just a difficult thing for you Golovkin ball slurpers to contemplate

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by frantic fighter View Post
                  Bloody nose doesn't equate hurt,he stunk out the joint was still hurt to the body and ate right hands the only thing Mauricio landed was a jab to the body and arm punches. The guy doesn't no how to throw a power punch to save his life,if I was a judge he would never get the benefit of the doubt in close fights. I'm not a troll and not a huge fan of Lara or Ward. Unbiased is just a difficult thing for you Golovkin ball slurpers to contemplate
                  He didn't stink out the joint. Kept it clean, no holding, no headbutts, low blows. Didn't even run, not his problem Garcia couldn't deal with the jab and the slickness

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                  • #19
                    Wasn't that Dannys last fight at 140 ?

                    Making Weight might have been a issue, maybe going to PR or taking Herrera lightly after coming off the Lucas win, or just a off night plus Herrera was almost impossible to look good against all could be reasons.

                    I think another factor is after the Matthysse win everyone thought Herrera was just some bum and thought it'd be a walk in the park but Mauricio's a tough out and was a top 10 140 and was the first to beat the current belt holder at the time Ruslan

                    Haven't watched the fight in years but had it 7-5 Danny maybe a draw but everyone want Danny to lose so if he's in a close fight no one wants to give him the decision because according to people on here since then he's lost to Lamont & Guerrero which is b.ull**** and shows you don't know how to score fights so unless its a 2nd round KO like Salka or a 9-10 round drubbing against Paulie there's always going to be some little b.itches crying about the outcome.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                      He didn't stink out the joint. Kept it clean, no holding, no headbutts, low blows. Didn't even run, not his problem Garcia couldn't deal with the jab and the slickness
                      What slickness? His entire plan was to jab at a safe distance,and lean head first throwing shoe shining arm punches from the clinch. It didn't work though he still got be at his own stinky game. DSG adapted and used smart pressure to work that cabesa and cuerpo all night. Since then their careers have went the way you expect Garcia is the undefeated champion at welterweight,polishing off one of boxing's best resumes,and Mauricio is all,but forgotten working the strawberry fields hoping to receive a call to take a hiding from the next blue chip prospect.

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