Why is Floyd getting smashed for the All lives Matter comment?

[Thraxox]

Mostly Floyd talks a lot of ****, but this is not one those things. He mentioned equality and how one race should be put in above, yet he is getting dissed by his most loyal fans even Dontae.

All lives indeed matter, Black Lives Matter, Asian Lives matter, Brown Lives Matter, White Lives matter, so why is Floyd getting crucified for making such a statement?

[Scipio2009]

Mostly Floyd talks a lot of ****, but this is not one those things. He mentioned equality and how one race should be put in above, yet he is getting dissed by his most loyal fans even Dontae.

All lives indeed matter, Black Lives Matter, Asian Lives matter, Brown Lives Matter, White Lives matter, so why is Floyd getting crucified for making such a statement?

Black Lives Matter (Too) emerged, as a movement, after the continued examples of unarmed black/brown folks (in nearly all cases unarmed) being murdered by police forces, with no consequences for the officers. *** is a protest movement, in almost the truest sense of the term.

All Lives Matter, as a conversation topic, emerged as an effort to directly criticize/discredit the concerns of black/brown people protesting the killing of unarmed people by police forces; rather than face the critique that launched the movement, folks trumpeting 'All Lives Matter' have tried to use gang violence as a grounds to justify the murder of unarmed people by police forces.

No one has ever said that one set of lives is worth more/less than another set of lives; the point has simply been argued that the care, given by police forces to not, for example, murder ARMED white folks at traffic stops should be extended to everyone, including the 6', 200lb black kid (regardless of what was done) trying to simply get home.

I need to sit and see what Floyd actually said, but I doubt that Floyd was arguing that the killings of unarmed black/brown people by police and gang violence (often involving gang member on gang member issues) are one and of the same.

Floyd Mayweather was a US Olympian, and is basically an institution in Las Vegas, but the fact is that his oldest son is nearly 18 years old, is physically seemingly on his way to being over 5'10, and could basically be seen as "John Brown" outside of Las Vegas by a police officer.

[stuff jones]

Black Lives Matter (Too) emerged, as a movement, after the continued examples of unarmed black/brown folks (in nearly all cases unarmed) being murdered by police forces, with no consequences for the officers. *** is a protest movement, in almost the truest sense of the term.

All Lives Matter, as a conversation topic, emerged as an effort to directly criticize/discredit the concerns of black/brown people protesting the killing of unarmed people by police forces; rather than face the critique that launched the movement, folks trumpeting 'All Lives Matter' have tried to use gang violence as a grounds to justify the murder of unarmed people by police forces.

No one has ever said that one set of lives is worth more/less than another set of lives; the point has simply been argued that the care, given by police forces to not, for example, murder ARMED white folks at traffic stops should be extended to everyone, including the 6', 200lb black kid (regardless of what was done) trying to simply get home.

I need to sit and see what Floyd actually said, but I doubt that Floyd was arguing that the killings of unarmed black/brown people by police and gang violence (often involving gang member on gang member issues) are one and of the same.

Floyd Mayweather was a US Olympian, and is basically an institution in Las Vegas, but the fact is that his oldest son is nearly 18 years old, is physically seemingly on his way to being over 5'10, and could basically be seen as "John Brown" outside of Las Vegas by a police officer.

Is there any statistical evidence that unarmed black people are killed at a higher rate per police encounter than other races? I know the cases have gotten more media play and I wouldn't be surprised if it is true, but I haven't seen evidence that this is true.

My problem with *** is that it doesn't seem to be presenting policy solutions to improving policing. How can police-community relations be improved? You can't just blame racism - black cops are killing black people too and white cops kill white people. *** seem to just be anger and venting but nothing productive or even particularly insightful. And it seems to be dangerously diverting attention away from bigger, more important issues like education, criminal sentencing and economic opportunity. Those issues don't get people burning down things and riled up on twitter but they affect far more people's lives.

[Redd Foxx]

I admire Floyd for bucking the social pressure and not being afraid to express himself on this one. He's being punished for being an independent thinker and not resigning himself to the stereotype.

[Scipio2009]

Is there any statistical evidence that unarmed black people are killed at a higher rate per police encounter than other races? I know the cases have gotten more media play and I wouldn't be surprised if it is true, but I haven't seen evidence that this is true.

My problem with *** is that it doesn't seem to be presenting policy solutions to improving policing. How can police-community relations be improved? You can't just blame racism - black cops are killing black people too and white cops kill white people. *** seem to just be anger and venting but nothing productive or even particularly insightful. And it seems to be dangerously diverting attention away from bigger, more important issues like education, criminal sentencing and economic opportunity. Those issues don't get people burning down things and riled up on twitter but they affect far more people's lives.

Is not like the policy solutions are unknown; it's just that it'll require a committed effort, from police forces and communities, to see them through (and, in seemingly refusing to acknowledge the problem, the buy-in from police forces and supporters of police forces is, at the very least, unclear).

Community policing, in addition to efforts regarding education issues, criminal sentencing, economic opportunity, etc, solves the vast majority of the tensions, especially in urban communities where the hostility is generally seen.

Because correcting that seeming impulse, of "tall, dark person is an immediate risk to the life of an officer", would literally diffuse near everything.

I don't have any scientific evidence of the numbers (whether that information is actually out there I have no idea), but it definitely feels like something is up (it may have happened somewhere, but I've never even heard of a police officer firing into someone's vehicle for reaching to get the license that the officer told them to bring out).

Whether it be stop/frisk in NYC seemingly only ever impacting black/brown people, African American enclaves, like Ferguson, MO, being served by a largely non-African American police force, whose officers have no other ties to the community, it feels as if a scientific examination will bare out the feelings being justified.

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He is 40 years old rich and probably has enough time on his hands to develop his own thoughts by now.

The people outraged that he isn't supporting a violent racial movement were probably most proud of him when he was slurring everyone, locked in a cage for domestic battery, buried in tax debt. That was when he was "a real brotha". Like a dumb cartoon character.

[The Comic DON]

Because *** is a racist organization and like all racist organizations its members are bullies. Most bullies can't stand when someone stands up to them with righteousness, so when you say the right thing, All Lives Matter, they lose their freaking mind.

Glad to see Floyd standing up to racism in 2016.

All Lives Matter

[ukbox]

Floyds irrelevant and is trying to piggy back off of any story or fighter to keep his name out there.

What would I guy who needs an entourage and plenty of security know about anyone's life being at risk?

Same with Snr...who would ask that guy about politics and expect any type of coherent answer?
y'all don't know **** about politics...that's what you'd expect from Snr

...so who would ask these *** trumpets for their opinion? main stream media? no, the media that mayweather owns and has in his pocket

[Ray*]

Good on him.

[original zero]

Scipio2009 -

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to shoot someone without knowing if they're armed. Why does this not appear to be acknowledged by your post?