Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo-Golovkin, Ward, Mike Tyson, More

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The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen 'Breadman' Edwards discussing numerous topics, including Mike Tyson vs. George Foreman, Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Gennady Golovkin, Evander Holyfield vs. Rid**** Bowe trilogy, and more.
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[Edward90]

I can get why GGG gets so much flack, although I don't give it. Even 20 years ago, moving up in weight wasn't such a big deal. Therefore, Hagler, Norris, Hopkins, etc. had more opportunities to fight bigger names and better opponents. Also, fans demanded better fights were made that smaller fighters move up once they showed they were the best in the division. Nowadays, that doesn't seem as prominent. For example, why is Crawford still at 140 and why is there no demand for him to move up? I'm a youngbuck, so I am lacking in actual experience during the 80s and prior to go off of, but it seems as though the unwillingness of boxers to move out of their divisions gives GGG fewer choices to fight more talented boxers. Therefore, to be as great as many think he can be, the expectation and burden then falls on him to go find those challenges. It sucks, but it is what it is. You will be defined by who you beat, not by who avoided you. Hopefully, more fighters will grow some stones eventually... And before anyone gets rude, I'm not criticizing any of these boxers. I'm just curious about the "staying at one weight class" problem. Why doesn't Hagler get more flack for not moving up? From my eyes (and like I said, I'm young), I don't understand why boxing fans accepted this. Waiting on Leonard seems to have been accepted, but what if that fight didn't happen? Would Hearns, Duran, and such been sufficient? What if they didn't move up? You can only control what you can. Control..

[R.I.P Chico]

One of your best Breadman - as always, a great read! I'm with you on GGG; the lack of fights; Bowe/Holyfield.. I'm a sucker for a puncher tho, so routing for Kovalev. GGG is the man right now. The middleweights should hang their heads with their shameful b1tch antics. Keep them coming brother.

[MDPopescu]

Breadman: "I am predicting a tight Ward victory (i.e. 115-113) . I just can't pick against Andre Ward. But I think the early rounds are the key. If Ward can acclimate to Kovalev's power without getting too badly hurt or dropped then he should be able to score enough points to win the fight."

Well... If Ward can acclimate to Kovalev's power... then he wins 115-113...

... and this was a prediction...

[SteveM]

These mailbags are the best articles on NSB - keep em coming and many thanks. I think one reason that fighters don't get so much pressure to move up nowadays is that so few clear out their weight class. Who has done that now? Gonzalez cleared out 112 so he has moved up. And he wasn't even under fans pressure to do so as most wanted a rematch with Estrada. Rigo was rightfully under pressure to move up to 126 - he resisted and look where his career options are now. Lomachenko has moved up. 135 is still a toss up. Crawford has cleared out 140 - who's there to fight unless he hangs around for Garcia to come back up. He should be getting a bit more pressure to move on up, at least test the waters with a catchweight. Then there is Golovkin. He is hanging around for the Canelo fight. And to unify. The only fight that makes sense to move up for would be the winner of DeGale-Jack and that is neither a legacy or a money fight - I mean it would help his legacy but it wouldn't seal it.
Also a great analysis on Ward-Kov. I just question whether Breadman is talking about the SuperSix Ward or the Ward I have seen in his last three fights. I don't see the same quick feet as he once had. Maybe they will still be quick enough.

[OnePunch]

Great mailbag Bread, but gotta disagree with you on the idea of sanctioning bodies requiring champs to fight a mando every other fight. If that happened, champs with 2 belts would be doing nothing but mando after mando after mando. Of course mandos are important, but too often the mando is a substandard fight. And what about a champ with 3 or more titles? It would be impossible for him to defend all his titles without getting stripped.

Keep up the good work though..........

[bluepete]

I've never understood why anybody thought Tyson would struggle against Old George.Watch the Qawi fight and see how hard George found it to time a moving target and how hitable he was against fat old Dwight.Then compare that to the best heavyi for head movement maybe ever.No way would that crossarm defence have help George against Mike.People criminally underate early Mike.

[j0zef]

Breadman roasts the Brook-Golovkin trolls. Love it.

Good breakdown for Ward/Kovalev too.

[davidw9785]

Nice breakdown for Ward-Kovalev. My only addition would be to point out that Kovalev knocked B-Hop down going backwards while B-Hop was trying to close the distance. That showed me that Kovalev doesn't have to be set to land a big shot. I am sure JDJ and he are working hard on taking a step back and sideways and punching from there.

Kovalev is very mobile.

I can't wait for this fight.

[steeve steel]

"...then reality kicked in: his face was broken!" Lol and re lol Hurray for Breadman the troll gobbler!