Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Given FINAL Deadline By WBO, Likely Getting Stripped

[Weltschmerz]

Strip him, he'll have all the time in the world to do lines of coke in his caravan.

[The plunger man]

Seems like you guys missed the sarcasm. I thought the "!'s" and emoticon would give it away but I guess not. Sorry.

No need for sorry m8 ..

[juggernaut666]

OH I think Joshua & Parker would take the fight against each other, only thing is - willingly they won't unless it is mandated..
But I believe AJ will knock Parker out in the late rounds when they do fight..

Parker did not dare to be great imo, he took the easier route(Ruiz for the WBO), that is not a knock on Parker who has an good resume when compared to AJ or even Wilder..

Team Parker is not going to let him face Joshua if Ruiz is a choice ,Parker isnt of full adult thinking yet at 23 whatever and is still in invincibility mode ( hes not M.Tyson) Barry knows winning a title is more important than getting defeated by Joshua . I do think Barry will think Parker will beat Joshua but he seriously can't realistically favor him yet or have enough confidence not to take Ruiz instead .


A fighter can only progress of what you feed him and it has to be the right food , Barry 's opponents selection has slowed Parkers progress for Joshua caliber ......he MUST know this ! Parker himself would certainly take the fight but Barry is smart and has admitted a few fights back they need more fights to get more experience , Joshua is simply a more natural fighter who was groomed better as an amateur of olympic level of better competition so he has a head start in progress combined with the most dangerous power and seems to be transitioning better each fight, that is something Barry is not going to rush into given a choice .

[TexasCowBoy]

They didn't bamboozle him...that's how he is.
Stop making excuses for your boy.

One he aint my boy and two I was making fun of two coke addicts.....Listen to Eric Claptons song "*******" its a classic or Lynard Skynards song "that smell"

[BoxingFan85]

Team Parker is not going to let him face Joshua if Ruiz is a choice ,Parker isnt of full adult thinking yet at 23 whatever and is still in invincibility mode ( hes not M.Tyson) Barry knows winning a title is more important than getting defeated by Joshua . I do think Barry will think Parker will beat Joshua but he seriously can't realistically favor him yet or have enough confidence not to take Ruiz instead .


A fighter can only progress of what you feed him and it has to be the right food , Barry 's opponents selection has slowed Parkers progress for Joshua caliber ......he MUST know this ! Parker himself would certainly take the fight but Barry is smart and has admitted a few fights back they need more fights to get more experience , Joshua is simply a more natural fighter who was groomed better as an amateur of olympic level of better competition so he has a head start in progress combined with the most dangerous power and seems to be transitioning better each fight, that is something Barry is not going to rush into given a choice .

Though I agree about Parkers level of competition leading up to this, but he seriously has a better resume than AJ.. That's the thing with AJ, we do not know how good he is or can be because he has faced a bunch of no hopers till now.. Martin, Brazeale kinds won't be ranked even within top 20 of any era..

People make claims that AJ will beat Wlad - based on what?? Breazeale ? Martin?

Parker can hang in there with top 10-15 of the era ala Takam.

I am an AJ fan and want him to take up good fights and challenge himself.. But Hearn needs to get his feet wet and put him with some top 10 guys..

[1hourRun]

He's fighting the Burger King, said this already Parker takes no credit for stopping this fat lump. He should go after Joshua before he picks up the title or he'll never manage to force his hand into facing him.

A photo posted by Andy Ruiz (@andy_destroyer13) on Aug 17, 2016 at 10:08am PDT

[juggernaut666]

Though I agree about Parkers level of competition leading up to this, but he seriously has a better resume than AJ.. That's the thing with AJ, we do not know how good he is or can be because he has faced a bunch of no hopers till now.. Martin, Brazeale kinds won't be ranked even within top 20 of any era..

People make claims that AJ will beat Wlad - based on what?? Breazeale ? Martin?

Parker can hang in there with top 10-15 of the era ala Takam.

I am an AJ fan and want him to take up good fights and challenge himself.. But Hearn needs to get his feet wet and put him with some top 10 guys..

Takam is a sparring partner mode fighter ,under sized and doesnt pack a HW punch that would be considered a threat . He is no threat to many Super heavy weights and i dont rate him over Mansour , Miller , Whyte or Breazeale who is better than Dimitrenko ( Parkers best win ) so no i do not agree Parkers fought the better competition bc he hasnt fought anyone who could punch yet with size , Joshua has fought a few and a few seasoned fighers as well , in contrast Parker has mainly fought local kiwi's of club fighter level its not remotely close for me who has had consistency in better fighters.

People make claims that Joshua beats Wlad based on the match not resume ,a resume doesnt fight the fighter does . Based on actual skills and performances its a safe bet Joshua beats Wlad ,you dont need proof because the evidance is looking at the fights itself .

Joshua defeating the entire top tens still wouldn't change why he is favored even slightly here ,hes expected to win over anybody ,you'll see he wont be an under dog in any of his fights .


Here is a simple intelligent breakdown of the match i posted weeks ago below !


KLITCHKO vs JOSHUA


A REAL ANALYSIS




POWER : Joshua

OFFENSIVE SKILL: Joshua

DEFENSIVE SKILL: Klitchko

ACCURACY: Joshua

SPEED : DRAW

FOOTWORK : Klitchko

CHIN : Not Appliable

EXPERIANCE : Klitchko


STYLES :

Klitchko : A defense cautionary first set up ,needs the jab to make everything happen without it he loses this fight and if he left hooks off the jab he can k.o Joshua bc he wont see it coming but the left hook is often not thrown enough otherwise you would have seen more Pulev like endings .


Joshua : A go forward aggressive pressure set up , he has the abilities to fight inside or out side and is the better counter puncher who has speed which is going to make him extremely dangerous here ,



X FACTORS :

Physical attributes :Wlads major weapon besides the jab is ability to force his opposition to go on the inside bc they simply cant out box him from the outside and thats where he utilises clinching and beats you up there ,either way he wins . Unfortunatly Joshua is 6'6 250 and will hold his own if this happens but unlike anyone hes fought , Joshua can rip power shots there and thats where he does his best work .

EDGE : Joshua


FIGHT CONTROL : Who ever can hit with more authority while utilizing footwork will dictate pace ,,Wlad has the edge here and will need it bc ifhe lets Joshua bull rush him and doesnt let him get comfortable its going to be a short fight bxc Joshua isnt easy to hit as most ppl THINK and he can throw fast combinations from heady to body if he gets Wlad on the ropes and hurts him hes going to win .

EDGE : Wlad


MENTAL TOUGHNESS : Klitchko knows what its like to survive fights alot more and certainly will be looking to crush his next opponent to show last one was an off night and continues to bring that here,Joshua is hungrier and wants to lay waste to the entire HW division without breaking sweat and thinks he will be on top for as long as hes fighting . Opposite is Wlad who knows limited time is not on his side and his legacy can be re written with this win alone ,he does not want to leave the game on an Loss . This makes BOTH guys confidence go up a level a win over Wlad will solidify Joshua as the best no question and for Wlad to beat such a young powerful opponent at 40 one will have to rethink his standing as an ATG and in my book puts him over Vitali . Its a TALL order , i think Joshuas train of thought the work effort and style will make it difficult .

EDGE : Joshua


PREDICTED WINNER : Joshua 65% Chance

[BoxingFan85]

Takam is a sparring partner mode fightr under sized and doesnt pack a HW punch that would be considered a threat . He is nothreat to many Super heavy weights and i dont rate him over Mansour , Miller , Whyte or Breazeale who is better than Dimitrenko ( Parkers best win ) so no i do not agree Parkers fought the better competition bc he hasnt fought anyone who could punch yet with size , Joshua has

Honestly that's ignoring facts.. Who exactly has AJ fought who can punch & has got a decent chin?

People make claims that Joshua beats Wlad based on the match not resume ,a resume doesnt fight the fighter does . Based on actual skills and performances its a safe bet Joshua beats Wlad ,you dont need proof because the evidance is looking at the fights itself .

The proof lies in what you have done & where you are with your skills. Wlad is a proven champion & AJ is a prospect with belt.. Skills wise Wlad >> AJ, Power wise AJ is a little better than Wlad, Ring generalship Wlad >>> AJ...

Here is a simple intelligent breakdown of the match i posted weeks ago below !


KLITCHKO vs JOSHUA


A REAL ANALYSIS




POWER : Joshua

OFFENSIVE SKILL: Joshua

DEFENSIVE SKILL: Klitchko

ACCURACY: Klitchko

SPEED : DRAW

FOOTWORK : Klitchko

CHIN : Not Appliable

EXPERIANCE : Klitchko


STYLES :

Klitchko : A defense cautionary first set up ,needs the jab to make everything happen without it he loses this fight and if he left hooks off the jab he can k.o Joshua bc he wont see it coming but the left hook is often not thrown enough otherwise you would have seen more Pulev like endings .


Joshua : A go forward aggressive pressure set up , he has the abilities to fight inside or out side and is the better counter puncher who has speed which is going to make him extremely dangerous here ,



X FACTORS :

Physical attributes :Wlads major weapon besides the jab is ability to force his opposition to go on the inside bc they simply cant out box him from the outside and thats where he utilises clinching and beats you up there ,either way he wins . Unfortunatly Joshua is 6'6 250 and will hold his own if this happens but unlike anyone hes fought , Joshua can rip power shots there and thats where he does his best work .

EDGE : Joshua


FIGHT CONTROL : Who ever can hit with more authority while utilizing footwork will dictate pace ,,Wlad has the edge here and will need it bc ifhe lets Joshua bull rush him and doesnt let him get comfortable its going to be a short fight bxc Joshua isnt easy to hit as most ppl THINK and he can throw fast combinations from heady to body if he gets Wlad on the ropes and hurts him hes going to win .

EDGE : Wlad

It is a good analysis, I even corrected one of them.. Aj hasn't been hit by someone like Wlad but Wlad has (Sanders, Sam Peter, Haye) but neither man has a great chin at least on paper..
AJ doesn't have a stationary guy in front of him & is slow on his feet - so he will gas after a few rounds..
Wlad hasn't faced a young athletic guy in a long time whom he cannot bully.. The key is strategy & not power - Wlad has had a better game plan until Fury(where he did not execute his plan)..

I like to see the matchup & the fight.. I've got Wlad by UD or late KO.. if you feel otherwise then lets bet some points on it when the fight happens..

[juggernaut666]

Honestly that's ignoring facts.. Who exactly has AJ fought who can punch & has got a decent chin?



The proof lies in what you have done & where you are with your skills. Wlad is a proven champion & AJ is a prospect with belt.. Skills wise Wlad >> AJ, Power wise AJ is a little better than Wlad, Ring generalship Wlad >>> AJ...






It is a good analysis, I even corrected one of them.. Aj hasn't been hit by someone like Wlad but Wlad has (Sanders, Sam Peter, Haye) but neither man has a great chin at least on paper..
AJ doesn't have a stationary guy in front of him & is slow on his feet - so he will gas after a few rounds..
Wlad hasn't faced a young athletic guy in a long time whom he cannot bully.. The key is strategy & not power - Wlad has had a better game plan until Fury(where he did not execute his plan)..

I like to see the matchup & the fight.. I've got Wlad by UD or late KO.. if you feel otherwise then lets bet some points on it when the fight happens..

MENTAL TOUGHNESS : Klitchko knows what its like to survive fights alot more and certainly will be looking to crush his next opponent to show last one was an off night and continues to bring that here,Joshua is hungrier and wants to lay waste to the entire HW division without breaking sweat and thinks he will be on top for as long as hes fighting . Opposite is Wlad who knows limited time is not on his side and his legacy can be re written with this win alone ,he does not want to leave the game on an Loss . This makes BOTH guys confidence go up a level a win over Wlad will solidify Joshua as the best no question and for Wlad to beat such a young powerful opponent at 40 one will have to rethink his standing as an ATG and in my book puts him over Vitali . Its a TALL order , i think Joshuas train of thought the work effort and style will make it difficult .

EDGE : Joshua


PREDICTED WINNER : Joshua 65% Chance



Breazeale hss a chin /punch and was in great shape ...No man couldn't be eating Joshua shots 7 rnds . Parker hasnt fought any power puncher 6'7 250 like that .


Martin a 6'5 250 SOUTHPAW also heavy handed ,wont find him on Parkers resume either

Whyte a good boxer 250 at 6'4 who is very durable and packs wallop with reach ,certainly would be Parkers best win .


All these guys can punch and were made into looking like out matched beginners . Parkers struggling with 41 yearold Rugby players at times (he was huffing y rnd 3 and getting hit alot ) just bc the opposition was BIG , the guy lacked speed and power to add . Sorry but this foesnt scream hes done better than the big guys (Much more skilled ) than Joshua did ,it just doesnt .

Lets put Dimitrenko in a realistic look ....the guy is NOT durable at all and was knocked out by a jab once . Based on that measurability of where to place Parker in actual legit place he would be around 8 ranked ,and thats based on his SKILLS ...if i based it on resume like others i have in top 10 he wouldn't be in top 10 .


I cant help anyone if they cant see Joshua is a exceptional athlete ,,,slow on his feet ? Based on what ? Who has run circles around him?

Assuming Joshua has a weak chin but ignore actually who has been k.od and at times doesnt reactto punches well?

You see to make these claims you need to explain why he is . The answer is hes an aggressive style .....aggressive fighters dont prance around the ring they cut the ring off and no one can seriously tell me he doesnt do that ?

I'll put ALL my points up ,even though i will be rooting for Wlad , smarts tell me AJ will win .

[BoxingFan85]

Breazeale hss a chin /punch and was in great shape ...No man couldn't be eating Joshua shots 7 rnds . Parker hasnt fought any power puncher 6'7 250 like that .


Martin a 6'5 250 SOUTHPAW also heavy handed ,wont find him on Parkers resume either

Whyte a good boxer 250 at 6'4 who is very durable and packs wallop with reach ,certainly would be Parkers best win .


All these guys can punch and were made into looking like out matched beginners . Parkers struggling with 41 yearold Rugby players at times (he was huffing y rnd 3 and getting hit alot ) just bc the opposition was BIG , the guy lacked speed and power to add . Sorry but this foesnt scream hes done better than the big guys (Much more skilled ) than Joshua did ,it just doesnt .

Lets put Dimitrenko in a realistic look ....the guy is NOT durable at all and was knocked out by a jab once . Based on that measurability of where to place Parker in actual legit place he would be around 8 ranked ,and thats based on his SKILLS ...if i based it on resume like others i have in top 10 he wouldn't be in top 10 .

Nah, that's just hyping up opponents who are just plain ordinary at best.. Neither of the guys were expected to win & everybody knew they weren't good boxers.. Takam was a level above these guys & there is no denying that..
Also, I'm NOT saying Parker is better than AJ skill wise.. Parker has faced 1 better guy than AJ & that's there to see..
Will Parker beat AJ ? - Hell No, he will be KO'ed inside 8

I cant help anyone if they cant see Joshua is a exceptional athlete ,,,slow on his feet ? Based on what ? Who has run circles around him?

This is chicken & egg scenario, who has he fought that could have given him any problems stylistically.. How is he slow on his feet? based on his footwork he has displayed so far - honestly dude, I am his fan & but I can point out flaws when I see them..

You see to make these claims you need to explain why he is . The answer is hes an aggressive style .....aggressive fighters dont prance around the ring they cut the ring off and no one can seriously tell me he doesnt do that ?

I'll put ALL my points up ,even though i will be rooting for Wlad , smarts tell me AJ will win .

Let's bet when they fight..