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  • #11
    Boxing have some work to do in America no doubt about that. It is a State Of Emergency for boxing in America. Ratings and PPVs numbers are complete **** and will only get worse until boxing unifies and everybody agree to work with each other or something drastic like that happens

    No way can boxing survive with this current divide and people not working with each other

    Even have the fans Divided and taking sides it is a NO WIN War for all that will ultimately sink the sport down further
    Last edited by sicko; 10-09-2016, 06:15 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by GMAN SUPREME View Post
      I agree as far as the mainstream goes mma is ****ting all over boxing.the next ufc ppv is getting all kinds of hype meanwhile boxing's biggest fight kovalev vs ward no one gives a ****.
      The UFC just had a PPV this past Saturday, and no one has said **** about it, lol.

      2016 will likely end with 6 boxing PPVs: Pacquiao-Bradley III, Alvarez-Khan, Crawford-Postol, Alvarez-Smith, Kovalev-Ward, Pacquiao-Vargas, and maybe Golovkin-Jacobs.

      2016 will see the UFC have 13 PPV events: Lawler-Condit, McGregor-Diaz, Jones-OSP, Werdum-Miocic, Rockhold-Bisping II, Tate-Nunes [UFC 200], Lawler-Woodley, Diaz-McGregor II, Miocic-Overeem, Bisping-Henderson II, Alvarez-McGregor, UFC 206, and UFC 207.

      Pull the three McGregor fights, and what does UFC's 2016 look like compared to boxing?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
        The UFC just had a PPV this past Saturday, and no one has said **** about it, lol.

        2016 will likely end with 6 boxing PPVs: Pacquiao-Bradley III, Alvarez-Khan, Crawford-Postol, Alvarez-Smith, Kovalev-Ward, Pacquiao-Vargas, and maybe Golovkin-Jacobs.

        2016 will see the UFC have 13 PPV events: Lawler-Condit, McGregor-Diaz, Jones-OSP, Werdum-Miocic, Rockhold-Bisping II, Tate-Nunes [UFC 200], Lawler-Woodley, Diaz-McGregor II, Miocic-Overeem, Bisping-Henderson II, Alvarez-McGregor, UFC 206, and UFC 207.

        Pull the three McGregor fights, and what does UFC's 2016 look like compared to boxing?
        Facts........................

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        • #14
          Guys why you compere Boxing PPV with MMA PPV ,in MMA you pay for Brand(UFC) and stacked card from bottom to top,in Boxing you pay for 1 fight in most cases ,if Canelo-Khan make 450k just for 2 fighters its big PPV \,Imagine UFC card with one good fight.Another think is UFC is better in producing big names,we just lost our 2 biggest,Only Canelo is hausehold name now,but with Pac and Floyd Boxing was probably bigger then ever and bigger than MMA for sure,just wait for another 1 or 2 PPV salers like Canelo and USA boxing is back on the track,dont make drama over nothing.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
            The UFC just had a PPV this past Saturday, and no one has said **** about it, lol.

            2016 will likely end with 6 boxing PPVs: Pacquiao-Bradley III, Alvarez-Khan, Crawford-Postol, Alvarez-Smith, Kovalev-Ward, Pacquiao-Vargas, and maybe Golovkin-Jacobs.

            2016 will see the UFC have 13 PPV events: Lawler-Condit, McGregor-Diaz, Jones-OSP, Werdum-Miocic, Rockhold-Bisping II, Tate-Nunes [UFC 200], Lawler-Woodley, Diaz-McGregor II, Miocic-Overeem, Bisping-Henderson II, Alvarez-McGregor, UFC 206, and UFC 207.

            Pull the three McGregor fights, and what does UFC's 2016 look like compared to boxing?

            Pull the 3 mccgregor fights, and ufc still outsells boxing..

            Bisping-hendo will do 250-300k.. They always break 200k.. the lowest ufc PPv in recent years was a Mighty Mouse headlined card and it did 150k, roughly what Golovkin does on PPV .

            Boxing is horribly unorganized. There is no way to get the fighters/managers, the promoters, the TV networks and sanctioning bodies all on the same page for very long.. Ufc has everything organized and deal with none of the politics boxing does..

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
              The UFC just had a PPV this past Saturday, and no one has said **** about it, lol.

              2016 will likely end with 6 boxing PPVs: Pacquiao-Bradley III, Alvarez-Khan, Crawford-Postol, Alvarez-Smith, Kovalev-Ward, Pacquiao-Vargas, and maybe Golovkin-Jacobs.

              2016 will see the UFC have 13 PPV events: Lawler-Condit, McGregor-Diaz, Jones-OSP, Werdum-Miocic, Rockhold-Bisping II, Tate-Nunes [UFC 200], Lawler-Woodley, Diaz-McGregor II, Miocic-Overeem, Bisping-Henderson II, Alvarez-McGregor, UFC 206, and UFC 207.

              Pull the three McGregor fights, and what does UFC's 2016 look like compared to boxing?
              I bet the UFC is still out performing boxing in particular if you take out Canelo or Manny as you suggest to take Conor out of the UFC's numbers. The UFC has been beating boxing's ass in PPV for like 8 of the last 10 years. I researched it awhile back. And I'd bet the books look better with the UFC too with the expenses + profits & bottom line, although thats more debatable & ultimately unknown to us.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                I bet the UFC is still out performing boxing in particular if you take out Canelo or Manny as you suggest to take Conor out of the UFC's numbers. The UFC has been beating boxing's ass in PPV for like 8 of the last 10 years. I researched it awhile back. And I'd bet the books look better with the UFC too with the expenses + profits & bottom line, although thats more debatable & ultimately unknown to us.
                It'd be a dive to go through all of the information, but would be interesting to find out (particularly what the non-McGregor gates look like, compared to the non-Alvarez/Pacquiao gates, as UFC shares near no PPV information). If you have a link to your research, it'd be much appreciated.

                The fact that the UFC has basically committed themselves to putting on a PPV every month (whether the actual matchup warrants the move or not) has more to do with the bottom line than anything, imo.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  It'd be a dive to go through all of the information, but would be interesting to find out (particularly what the non-McGregor gates look like, compared to the non-Alvarez/Pacquiao gates, as UFC shares near no PPV information). If you have a link to your research, it'd be much appreciated.

                  The fact that the UFC has basically committed themselves to putting on a PPV every month (whether the actual matchup warrants the move or not) has more to do with the bottom line than anything, imo.
                  I agree. You use logic.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                    It'd be a dive to go through all of the information, but would be interesting to find out (particularly what the non-McGregor gates look like, compared to the non-Alvarez/Pacquiao gates, as UFC shares near no PPV information). If you have a link to your research, it'd be much appreciated.
                    I don't really pay attention to gate too much to be honest. I'd be blindly confident that if you put up the top 20 or so Boxing gates vs the top 20 or so UFC gates you'd come up with similar if not UFC preferred numbers doe, but I can't for sure say that is truly a fact.

                    The PPV stuff for boxing is out there as you probably already know & Kevin Iole has a page (I believe on the MMAPayout site, but could be mistaken) of various business stats with the UFC & MMA in general out there all in one place that should be easily found with google.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Guerrero's Dad View Post
                      Maybe in America where that fraud Al Haymon has helped run the sport into the ground.

                      But everywhere else, boxing is doing well. It has become huge again in the UK.
                      What do you know about America,


                      not much judging by what you just posted.

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