My P4P list with Fury out of the picture

**M Bison** · 10-07-2016, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko

1. A. Ward 30-0(15) (175)
2. S. Kovalev 30-0-1(26) (175) WBA (Super), WBO, IBF
3. M. Pacquaio 58-6-2(38) (147) Lineal
4. R. Gonzalez 46-0(38) (112) WBC, Ring, Lineal | (115) WBC
5. G. Rigondeaux 17-0(11) (122) WBA (Super), Lineal
6. T. Crawford 29-0(20) (140) WBC, WBO, Ring, Lineal
7. C. Alvarez 48-1-1(34) (154) WBO | (160) Ring, Lineal
8. W. Klitschko 64-4(53) (201+)
9. C. Frampton 23-0(14) (126) WBA (Super)
10. G. Golovkin 36-0(33) (160) WBC, WBA (Super), IBF, IBO
11. A. Stevenson 28-1(23) (175) WBC, Ring, Lineal
12. T. Bradley 33-2-1(13) (147)
13. D. Garcia 32-0(18) (147) WBC
14. K. Thurman 27-0(22) (147) WBA (World)
15. E. Lara 23-2-2(13) (154) WBA (Super)
Your opinion fellas
Plus the top 4 can be switched around

Roman Gonzalez has beat way better than Kovalev and Ward, your P4P top 3 is wrong.

**Redd Foxx** · 10-07-2016, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko

1. A. Ward 30-0(15) (175)
2. S. Kovalev 30-0-1(26) (175) WBA (Super), WBO, IBF
3. M. Pacquaio 58-6-2(38) (147) Lineal
4. R. Gonzalez 46-0(38) (112) WBC, Ring, Lineal | (115) WBC
5. G. Rigondeaux 17-0(11) (122) WBA (Super), Lineal
6. T. Crawford 29-0(20) (140) WBC, WBO, Ring, Lineal
7. C. Alvarez 48-1-1(34) (154) WBO | (160) Ring, Lineal
8. W. Klitschko 64-4(53) (201+)
9. C. Frampton 23-0(14) (126) WBA (Super)
10. G. Golovkin 36-0(33) (160) WBC, WBA (Super), IBF, IBO
11. A. Stevenson 28-1(23) (175) WBC, Ring, Lineal
12. T. Bradley 33-2-1(13) (147)
13. D. Garcia 32-0(18) (147) WBC
14. K. Thurman 27-0(22) (147) WBA (World)
15. E. Lara 23-2-2(13) (154) WBA (Super)
Your opinion fellas
Plus the top 4 can be switched around

Not bad (until you edited it, lol) but Golovkin is too low and I'd flip Gonzales and Pac, probably put Golovkin ahead of Pac at #4.

**Sadiqkingofko** · 10-07-2016, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by Redd Foxx

Not bad, but Golovkin is too low and I'd flip Gonzales and Pac, probably put Golovkin ahead of Pac at #4.

Sorry bro, I can't possibly put a guy who's best win was knocked out by a welterweight (Geale) that high

**Redd Foxx** · 10-07-2016, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko

Sorry bro, I can't possibly put a guy who's best win was knocked out by a welterweight (Geale) that high

Understandable. I tend to give Golovkin a pass and people tell me I'm far too generous to the guy.

**Sadiqkingofko** · 10-07-2016, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by Redd Foxx

Understandable. I tend to give Golovkin a pass and people tell me I'm far too generous to the guy.

He's a nice guy, great fighter, action packed fighter, very weak resume

**M Bison** · 10-07-2016, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko

He's a nice guy, great fighter, action packed fighter, very weak resume

Kovalev best wins
50 yo Bernard Hopkins
Nathan Cleverly
Jean Pascal

So Kovalev is... a bit of a douche, great fighter, action packed fighter but he has a very weak resume.

Maybe it's because Ward is fighting him that you think weak opponents like Cleverly, Pascal and a half century year old Hopkins is a good list, I wonder how highly you rated Joe Calzaghe for beating a more game version of Bhop.

**Sadiqkingofko** · 10-07-2016, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by Red Cyclone

Kovalev best wins
50 yo Bernard Hopkins
Nathan Cleverly
Jean Pascal

So Kovalev is... a bit of a douche, great fighter, action packed fighter but he has a very weak resume.

Maybe it's because Ward is fighting him that you think weak opponents like Cleverly, Pascal and a half century year old Hopkins is a good list, I wonder how highly you rated Joe Calzaghe for beating a more game version of Bhop.

Actually I admit I over looked that, thank you for pointing out my bias, I will lower Kovalev's ranking right now

**JmH Reborn** · 10-07-2016, 10:16 PM

1. Gonzalez
2. Kovalev
3. Crawford
4. GGG
5. Pacquiao
6. Lomo
7. Canelo
8. Frampton
9. Yamanaka
10. Ward
11. Garcia
12. Lara
13. Rigo
14. Bradley
15. Cotto
16. Inoue
17. Brook
18. Linares
19. Wlad
20. Estrada

**Sugar Adam Ali** · 10-07-2016, 10:27 PM

1 Ward
2 kovolev
3 rigo
4 roman
5 manny
6 ggg
7 crawford
8 Frampton
9 canelo
10 lomachenko

My P4P list with Fury out of the picture