Does Anyone Take Canelo/GBP's Side In This?

[KLockard23]

Canelo is a natural 154/155-pounder, and he's also the A-side of these affairs. So if GGG wants a fight so bad, then why is he demanding that Canelo be the one to move up? Instead, he should be the one to make concessions and drop down to Canelo's weight instead, not unlike so many great boxers have had to do in the past to secure big fights. Because as it stands, Canelo could remain at 154 for years and he'd still have plenty of great fights that could be booked without ever needing to fight GGG to have a good opponent:

The Charlo brothers (Jermall and Jermell) - Both undefeated, and both world champions.

Demetrius Andrade - Undefeated.

Julian "Jrock" Williams - Undefeated.

Miguel Cotto - The first fight was so close that a rematch shouldn't be completely ruled out.

Erislandy Lara - World champipn, and their first fight was so close that a rematch shouldn't be out of the question here either.

Kell Brook - Has repeatedly said that he's a natural 154-pounder and that he may even vacate the IBF Title to make a permanent move there.

Shawn Porter and Errol Spence Jr. - Have both said they'd be willing to move up to 154 to fight Canelo.

So somebody tell me exactly why the lesser star with more to prove is somehow the good guy in all of this?

[Madison Boxing]

well ducknelo should never have called out GGG and say mexicans dont **** around. He talks about GGG all the time. even at 154 he wont fight someone like andrade. it suits him perfectly to pick and choose to fight fighters inbetween the two divisions

[Sweet Jones]

Canelo is a natural 154/155-pounder, and he's also the A-side of these affairs. So if GGG wants a fight so bad, then why is he demanding that Canelo be the one to move up? Instead, he should be the one to make concessions and drop down to Canelo's weight instead, not unlike so many great boxers have had to do in the past to secure big fights. Because as it stands, Canelo could remain at 154 for years and he'd still have plenty of great fights that could be booked without ever needing to fight GGG to have a good opponent:

The Charlo brothers (Jermall and Jermell) - Both undefeated, and both world champions.

Demetrius Andrade - Undefeated.

Julian "Jrock" Williams - Undefeated.

Miguel Cotto - The first fight was so close that a rematch shouldn't be completely ruled out.

Erislandy Lara - World champipn, and their first fight was so close that a rematch shouldn't be out of the question here either.

Kell Brook - Has repeatedly said that he's a natural 154-pounder and that he may even vacate the IBF Title to make a permanent move there.

Shawn Porter and Errol Spence Jr. - Have both said they'd be willing to move up to 154 to fight Canelo.

So somebody tell me exactly why the lesser star with more to prove is somehow the good guy in all of this?

While GBP and Canelo are not without blame in this, they DO have a point about GGG and his team swagging around as though he and Canelo are equals in terms of popularity, resume, future options, drawing ability, and 'juice' within the industry.

Has GGG made ANY concessions to make this fight happen (catchweight, purse split)? Has GGG done anything to raise his profile to make this fight bigger?

These guys are not at the same level. And GGG and his supporters need to recognize that. Hating on Canelo won't change that.

[Bjl12]

There are no sides. Canelo/GBP are correct in everything they've done. Canelo/GBP made an EXCELLENT offer of 10$ million (with apparent PPV upside) to which Little g and abel rejected. Tom Loeffler (Little g's promoter) confirmed the good offer from GBP/Canelo.................and all of this came after Little g (the B side) refused to meet at a catchweight.....so he made requests and 0 concessions. $10 million (with PPV upside) is more than Little g has ever or will ever make, period.

Canelo/GBP on the other hand have had MANY big fights in different venues (Floyd, Cotto, Kirkland, Lara, Angulo, Trout, etc.). Canelo accepted the B side in the past and made concessions - going to 152 for Floyd and going to MSG for Cotto, agreeing to 155 which was Cotto's request. Canelo also took the smaller purse in those fights.

Little g and Abel called out everyone from 147-168 and renigged when Ward accepted (changing their stance to needing a catchweight). Little g calls out Floyd, Canelo, and Pacquiao but demands they come to his weight - just like they demanded Ward come to their weight. Little g fights mostly highly rated cab drivers and talks lots of **** about other fights (Canelo fighting Khan at 155), but turns around and fights a fellow WW at 160 - again 0 concessions by Little g.

All talk from Little g camp. It's like Roach all over again. Lil g don't want it and so he won't sign the contract. This 35 year old is pissed he waited so long to turn pro.........whoops.

[Tomjas]

No

Fishnets is fighting to save his company in between doing lines and literally everything he says has proven to be utter bs over time

Furthermore, anybody that believes Team BS made K2 an eight figure offer is more delusional than the man himself

[PK3434]

Canelo kills himself to make 154...i wouldn't call him a natural light middleweight.

[Infamous]

Floyd set the precedent so right or wrong Canelo is doing whatever he can to build the fight... it's going to happen regardless...

[pacmanis1]

Canelo is a natural 154/155-pounder, and he's also the A-side of these affairs. So if GGG wants a fight so bad, then why is he demanding that Canelo be the one to move up? Instead, he should be the one to make concessions and drop down to Canelo's weight instead, not unlike so many great boxers have had to do in the past to secure big fights. Because as it stands, Canelo could remain at 154 for years and he'd still have plenty of great fights that could be booked without ever needing to fight GGG to have a good opponent:

The Charlo brothers (Jermall and Jermell) - Both undefeated, and both world champions.

Demetrius Andrade - Undefeated.

Julian "Jrock" Williams - Undefeated.

Miguel Cotto - The first fight was so close that a rematch shouldn't be completely ruled out.

Erislandy Lara - World champipn, and their first fight was so close that a rematch shouldn't be out of the question here either.

Kell Brook - Has repeatedly said that he's a natural 154-pounder and that he may even vacate the IBF Title to make a permanent move there.

Shawn Porter and Errol Spence Jr. - Have both said they'd be willing to move up to 154 to fight Canelo.

So somebody tell me exactly why the lesser star with more to prove is somehow the good guy in all of this?

I think the problem a lot of people have with 155lbs is that most don't believe Canelo is a natural 154lber. He uses his age to be able to squeeze down to 154lbs and eventually it will blow up in his face if he continues to do this. If it was 157 or 158 I think a lot of people would agree thats a lot more reasonable. Personally I don't like catchweights too much but when it seems to be a blatant tactic to try and drain the opponent and gain an advantage it becomes a real issue. I hated the idea of GGG fighting Ward at 164 because even though it was in the middle, it was obvious that Ward couldn't make that and be healthy. Pacquiao saying he'd fight Mosley at 142lbs was another example.

[Scipio2009]

Canelo is a natural 154/155-pounder, and he's also the A-side of these affairs. So if GGG wants a fight so bad, then why is he demanding that Canelo be the one to move up? Instead, he should be the one to make concessions and drop down to Canelo's weight instead, not unlike so many great boxers have had to do in the past to secure big fights. Because as it stands, Canelo could remain at 154 for years and he'd still have plenty of great fights that could be booked without ever needing to fight GGG to have a good opponent:

The Charlo brothers (Jermall and Jermell) - Both undefeated, and both world champions.

Demetrius Andrade - Undefeated.

Julian "Jrock" Williams - Undefeated.

Miguel Cotto - The first fight was so close that a rematch shouldn't be completely ruled out.

Erislandy Lara - World champipn, and their first fight was so close that a rematch shouldn't be out of the question here either.

Kell Brook - Has repeatedly said that he's a natural 154-pounder and that he may even vacate the IBF Title to make a permanent move there.

Shawn Porter and Errol Spence Jr. - Have both said they'd be willing to move up to 154 to fight Canelo.

So somebody tell me exactly why the lesser star with more to prove is somehow the good guy in all of this?

Because HBO and the boxing press that is the orbit in the US (Rafael/Kim/'Golden Boy Magazine'/etc), has got the biggest hard-on for a foreign fighter since Manny Pacquiao came in as the smiling offensive dynamo (with so many skeletons in his closet that folks would be embarrassed if things were actually talked about).

Golovkin is built up as a smiling "Ivan Drago", and the continuance of that image trumps anything else in the eyes of the "boxing press".

Alvarez has the popularity that he's been able to cultivate in Mexico/Spanish speaking audiences, but the fact that he's had fights with folks like Lara, Floyd, and Trout (where he pulled it out in 2 of the 3, but looked nothing like a wrecking machine), the "boxing press" jumped ship.

Golovkin perpetuates a fantasy, so they'll push him until that comes up snake eyes (note how none of these "boxing scribes" ever mention p4p-level fighters fighting Golovkin, at any weight).

[lopetego]

Im a big GGG fan, but the fact is his team is just putting roadblocks on this match

instead of trying to make it possible

Canelos team offer is fair, all things considered

this match wont even sell as much as Canelo-Cotto