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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Estrada's Promoter Expects Chocolatito To Get KO'd in Rematch

    Juan Hernandez of Latin Sports Boxing, who co-promote (with Zanfer) now former world flyweight champion Juan Francisco Estrada, believes his boxer will score a knockout win over WBC super flyweight champion Roman 'Chocolatito' Gonzalez in a rematch.

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  • Czarczar
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    No, Chocolatito has a good chin. I don't think both fighters have the same power at this weight.

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    • Suavecito80
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      Where does he get this from? He want even close to knocking him down the first fight. Whatever man Chocolatito wins again and they mad.

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      • JASON SHAW
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        #4
        Roman is hbo's newest hypejob!

        Chocolatito is hbolds newest hypejob! They turned him into p4p king just because of close fights with estrada and cuadras hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

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        • Boxing Logic
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          I agree I don't understand why Chocolatito seems reluctant to rematch Estrada. Maybe he wasn't telling the truth when he said Cuadras was his toughest fight. Maybe he felt Estrada's punches more.

          And you can see from the weigh in photos, Estrada is naturally much bigger than Gonzalez. Taller, more muscular, longer arms, he's just very lean with no fat because he was at a lower weight. Meaning when he goes up to 115, he will actually get bigger, and better, since it's more his natural weight, while Gonzalez is past his best weight already. So maybe he knows the fight with Estrada at 115 will be even tougher.

          But since he is at 115, he should fight who the fans want him to fight.

          Inoue is clearly the best fight. Stop overhyping the Cuadras fight. We already saw it and neither could hurt the other.

          Estrada is clearly the second best fight. It was much closer than Gonzalez-Cuadras.

          Gonzalez-Cuadras II is a distant third. What Gonzalez-Cuadras did that is interesting is NOT create demand for a rematch. Not at all. What it did that was interesting was give a competitive fight that solidifies Cuadras as a good measuring stick for the OTHER guys at 115 to further hype Gonzalez against THOSE guys, if they can beat Cuadras too, NOT against Cuadras again until he proves he can hurt one of those top guys.

          So that's what I want to see. Estrada-Cuadras next, not Gonzalez-Cuadras II. If Estrada can dominate Cuadras or knock him out, that makes the Gonzalez rematch with ESTRADA much more interesting. Or if Cuadras can hurt or knock out Estrada, then the rematch with Gonzalez will be much more interesting.

          But those should be the fights. Cuadras should fight Estrada or even better Inoue,then if Estrada or Inoue can dominate Cuadras, that makes the winner vs Gonzalez much more interesting. But Gonzalez-Cuadras II without any context of the other guys? Just in their own bubble throwing thousands of punches at either other that never seem to have any effect? I'm not super interested.

          Since Cuadras is a big 115 with skills, I actually want to see him against Inoue, to see Inoue's power against a bigger guy.

          That's what HBO should do by next February. Make Gonzalez-Estrada II as the main event, with Inoue-Cuadras as the co-main. Then the winners fight next by the end of the year, perhaps with a tuneup or rest in between mid-year to recover from the damage of those hard fights.

          That is the only thing that makes sense! HBO now has FOUR name guys all at 115 at the exact same time! All in the same division! When does that ever happen in today's scattered boxing landscape? So the only smart thing to do is immediately make a tournament with the four of them.

          You can argue the tournament already started with Gonzalez-Cuadras, and that Estrada-Inoue should just fight and winners fight Gonzalez, but since ideally we want to see the best name, Gonzalez, against both the biggest threats, Estrada and Inoue, this way you start the tournament over, and get an extra big fight out of it.

          Get it done HBO!

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          • puro dinamita
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            El Gallo outclasses him in rematch he made gonzalez look like a chump in the first fight that's with estrada draining himself **** let's see it now i thought estrada won the first fight also

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            • fourtheboys96
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              Estrada gave Gonzalez hell in Gonzalez's own weight division.

              I believe Estrada went down in weight which is quite difficult for small guys.

              That fight was very exciting and a rematch would have gotten more interest. It still puzzles me why Chocolatito is not interested. Maybe he knows something we do not know.

              I hope Estrada finds success in his comeback in the super flyweight. Cuadras. Roman. Inoue. Estrada. It is an interesting mix.

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                Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                Juan Hernandez of Latin Sports Boxing, who co-promote (with Zanfer) now former world flyweight champion Juan Francisco Estrada, believes his boxer will score a knockout win over WBC super flyweight champion Roman 'Chocolatito' Gonzalez in a rematch.

                Gonzalez won a tough twelve round decision over Estrada back in 2012 at the junior flyweight limit. Estrada says he nearly killed his body to drop down to that weight.




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                Wow looking like at that picture I do believe him (Estrada). He looks as life-drained as Christian Bale did in the film The Machinist (2004) where he starved and nearly killed himself, to do justice to the character.

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                • Catrin
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                  I did not watch the first fight!!! can anyone shed some light on the fight! I am going to youtube the fight tonight! but I did see a couple of people with Gallo Estrada's signs at chocolatito's last fight at the forum.

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                  • Boxfan83
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                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                    I agree I don't understand why Chocolatito seems reluctant to rematch Estrada. Maybe he wasn't telling the truth when he said Cuadras was his toughest fight. Maybe he felt Estrada's punches more.

                    And you can see from the weigh in photos, Estrada is naturally much bigger than Gonzalez. Taller, more muscular, longer arms, he's just very lean with no fat because he was at a lower weight. Meaning when he goes up to 115, he will actually get bigger, and better, since it's more his natural weight, while Gonzalez is past his best weight already. So maybe he knows the fight with Estrada at 115 will be even tougher.

                    But since he is at 115, he should fight who the fans want him to fight.

                    Inoue is clearly the best fight. Stop overhyping the Cuadras fight. We already saw it and neither could hurt the other.

                    Estrada is clearly the second best fight. It was much closer than Gonzalez-Cuadras.

                    Gonzalez-Cuadras II is a distant third. What Gonzalez-Cuadras did that is interesting is NOT create demand for a rematch. Not at all. What it did that was interesting was give a competitive fight that solidifies Cuadras as a good measuring stick for the OTHER guys at 115 to further hype Gonzalez against THOSE guys, if they can beat Cuadras too, NOT against Cuadras again until he proves he can hurt one of those top guys.

                    So that's what I want to see. Estrada-Cuadras next, not Gonzalez-Cuadras II. If Estrada can dominate Cuadras or knock him out, that makes the Gonzalez rematch with ESTRADA much more interesting. Or if Cuadras can hurt or knock out Estrada, then the rematch with Gonzalez will be much more interesting.

                    But those should be the fights. Cuadras should fight Estrada or even better Inoue,then if Estrada or Inoue can dominate Cuadras, that makes the winner vs Gonzalez much more interesting. But Gonzalez-Cuadras II without any context of the other guys? Just in their own bubble throwing thousands of punches at either other that never seem to have any effect? I'm not super interested.

                    Since Cuadras is a big 115 with skills, I actually want to see him against Inoue, to see Inoue's power against a bigger guy.

                    That's what HBO should do by next February. Make Gonzalez-Estrada II as the main event, with Inoue-Cuadras as the co-main. Then the winners fight next by the end of the year, perhaps with a tuneup or rest in between mid-year to recover from the damage of those hard fights.

                    That is the only thing that makes sense! HBO now has FOUR name guys all at 115 at the exact same time! All in the same division! When does that ever happen in today's scattered boxing landscape? So the only smart thing to do is immediately make a tournament with the four of them.

                    You can argue the tournament already started with Gonzalez-Cuadras, and that Estrada-Inoue should just fight and winners fight Gonzalez, but since ideally we want to see the best name, Gonzalez, against both the biggest threats, Estrada and Inoue, this way you start the tournament over, and get an extra big fight out of it.

                    Get it done HBO!
                    For real man, who says Inoue is the best? Or even that goodl. The guy has like 10 fights, sure hes a hard puncher but his best win is over a guy that was long overdue for a win and held a belt captive in Argentina. The second Inoue gets put in the ring with talent like Cuadras, Estrada or Gonzalez he gets schooled. The only reason why people are crying for an Inoue fight is because itll make Gonzalez look TREMENDOUS. Cuardras deserves a rematch, Estrada needs to prove himself with a decent win or 2 at 115 and jumps ahead of Inoue. Inoue should go fight Concepcion or something, thats a fight he can win and gain experience from.

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