UK PPV numbers have no significance in Canelo/Golovkin negotiations

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yup, the fans are like divas too. I can understand fighters and their accountants arguing over splits, fans though..that's weird.

Its all these losers have. They have no money of their own, so like a scorned female, they talk about money that other men earn.

[icha]

Just tell the GGG fan girls that Canelo vs Smith did 3.4 million on PPV south of the border. Despite the fight also being on free tv.

http://espndeportes.espn.com/boxeo/n...ones-en-mexico

"La pelea entre Canelo y Smith, que terminó con un nocaut en nueve asaltos por parte de Álvarez, fue transmitida en suelo mexicano en Canal Space a través de la señal de televisión de paga"

"La pelea entre Canelo y Smith, que terminó con un nocaut en nueve asaltos por parte de Álvarez, fue transmitida en suelo mexicano en Canal Space, a través de la señal de televisión de paga, mientras que en televisión gratuita fue Azteca 7 el canal que transmitió el pleito"

3.4 mill ppv in mexico, is a good number considering fight was free an hour later.. i dont think ppvs are expensive, maybe $10.. still a lot of money... not bad for a fighter that is hated by the mexicans, the ggg backlash lol...

[Jsmooth9876]

Canelo-Golovkin WON'T be PPV in the UK. Golovkin wasn't the A-side in the Brook fight either. The UK adds nothing to the Canelo/Golovkin pot. I don't know why Golovkin fans even bother mentioning them it's irrelevant.

Guess what, Playa, neither does Floyd-Canelo or Cotto-Canelo then. Canelo was the B side in both..
So I guess it's 300k vs 150k in sales then we base it on right?

[Pain~Lucy]

this black supremacist is not even a canelo fan,.......OH WAIT

[xhiddenx87]

Ok, so who made the ppv cotto or canelo? Because here most of people run their mouth with the 900k as if they were the canelo numbers, and we all know who was the A side there....see we all can play that game...

Its plain ******...you need two for a fight..maybe a ppv with bizier would do 500k

Yeah right...

Letit go bro..its easier...big succes in uk is a bargain chip on the negotiation table...wether you like it or not

[mick1303]

No surprise to see who posted this thread. You may as well just kept quiet, we all know what your opinions and biases are.

One thing I don't get, is the argument that Golovkin wasn't the 'a-side' in the Brook fight. Its a very simple way of thinking, looking at popularity in this way.

The flaw in this thinking is this - how many PPV's did Brook sell in the UK before? None. People bought the mega-fight matchup.

The same applies for Canelo/Golovkin. It's quite clear to see Canelo is the bigger name. However neither fighter will be making as much money without the other. You cannot apply the simpleton 'a-side/b-side' argument to a blockbuster matchup, as they are more than the sum of its parts. The fight is the a-side, and both would be selling it.

60/40 is fair. 65/35 is fair if K2 want to secure the fight. What people seem to conveniently forget is, that Canelo's name is linked to Golovkin's. He will face criticism as long as he doesn't fight him, and this low PPV figure will only add pressure. Golovkin doesn't have the same pressure on him, as whilst Canelo is an opportunity, he can continue to destroy 160 waiting.

I think by this time it is clear that some of these posters are paid by GBP. There is really no point in trying to reason with them. They are not here for the discussions. This is promoters "working with Internet segment". So you're really wasting your time trying to convince them with logic. They will have none of that... It is sad that the boxing forum is polluted by this...

[Death_Adder]

I'm suprised that GGG/Canelo wouldn't be PPV in the UK

Gennady wasn't the A-side but The numbers aren't

Brook / GGG. 500k x 23 (USD) = 11.5 million
Canelo/Smith. 275 x 65 (USD) = 17.8

Ive tried looking but couldn't find the gates but I doubt that Canelo beats Pac/Marg gate of 6.9 million let's just say it does 6 million. Brook/Gennady probably did in the range of 3.5 million USD( rough estimate). But I bet Matchroom Made off like bandits with the resale tickets considering the $40 ticket were reselling for 400 and the $ 500 were going for $ 2500.

I bet when it's all said and done and all the revenues counted Brook / GGG did in the range of 2/3 dollar wise of what Canelo/Smith did.

You're about the 5-6th person I've ask, where did you get the 500K PPV numbers from? Can you provide a link that confirms the PPV numbers?

[Rysandro]

Ok, so who made the ppv cotto or canelo? Because here most of people run their mouth with the 900k as if they were the canelo numbers, and we all know who was the A side there....see we all can play that game...

Its plain ******...you need two for a fight..maybe a ppv with bizier would do 500k

Yeah right...

Letit go bro..its easier...big succes in uk is a bargain chip on the negotiation table...wether you like it or not

Truthfully Canelo conceded way too much $$ to fight Cotto. He just wanted to get the fight done and become the new PPV king.

I mean Canelo vs May did 50% better numbers than Cotto vs May. That was all the proof needed to show Canelo was the bigger draw

[Bushbaby]

Who's the bigger draw??

Who's the A side???

Who has the most fans??

Who puts butts in the seats??

Here's what we get when we worry, support and defend this line of thinking. We get GGG fighting whoever's available and we also get canelo/Smith on ppv

Great job guys, great job.

[SplitSecond]

Canelo-Smith made way more money than Golovkin Brook. Which is all that matters when discussing purse splits. Golovkin was a B-side, when Canelo was B-side he sold 2.48 million.

Wouldn't the amount of people you draw be more important?