Has there ever been a fighter considered top 3 p4p with a thin resume like GGG

[soul_survivor]

Once again.....what top ten middleweight did Macklin n Murray defeat ?


I'll wait.....


I know they were ranked top ten....all 4....geale was #2 @ one point. Barker was up there for beating geale....now answer the real ?

That's not what you asked before. And again, you lose one parameter and add on another just to try and justify your own ******ity.

First it was, he hasn't beaten anyone top 5, then top 3 and then when I proved you wrong it's "oh well, who did the guys he beat actually beat?"

I'm not playing this game. If you don't know about what Macklin, Murray and Geale have done at the weight, I'm not too bothered about telling you.

Everyone in boxing knows GGG is the best middleweight on the planet.

[Hype job]

Seriously man see a psychiatrist, your obsession with GGG is unhealthy.

[Weltschmerz]

I don't think it matters too much to him what he is 'considered' amongst NSB fucktards.

He's great, deal with it. He will retire one day, then we can move on to the next victim.

[BillyBoxing]

amateur wins don't count bro.....Tyson blitzed guys in the pros that beat him in the amatuers

two different styles


damn....GGG resume must be thinner than I thought if you have to add amateur wins in to fluff up his accomplishments and opposition


he is a good fighter, decent resume but he has not fought the opposition, nor shown the ability to adapt at the top to say he is top 3, top 5, let alone top ten p4p


level of opposition matters....you don't get brownie points for knocking out guys 2 divisons below you and never wases in your own division

What I mean, is if you can beat Bute and Direll you can box.

Amateur counts when it comes to boxing legacy and HOF, juste like Ali's gold medal, or Lennox KO over Bowe.

i don't know, Crawford is P4P for beating a midget in Gamboa and then Postol.

Don't KNOW if that so much better than GGG's record.

But TC being P4P ranked doesn't seem to bother Larry, yourself and all the Kigali of the forum.

[BillyBoxing]

GGG looked like crap fighting the corpse of Kassim Ouma.....he shouldn't have taken all those shots from a shop worn, slow fighter.

Ponce definitely had more left in the tank than Ouma.

still is being hyped to the heavens, whats the difference

Ponce was a more complete fighter than Ouma.

Maybe GGG looked like crap but beat him from pillar to post and stopped him, Ouma was a tough nut to crack and had never been stopped.

Ponce beat Broner according to many people, I thought Ponce kicked AB ass too.

That's a pretty much different result.

[BillyBoxing]

close fights....he lost

dude doesn't know how to get over the hump

that's the difference between contenders and fringe contenders....contenders and world champions


he comes up short for whatever reason....that's on him...no moral victories in boxing bro

you don't get brownie points for giving a good go of it.


Solid performance by GGG but not p4p material opponent....just keeping it 100%

Dude doesn't how to win versus Sturm in Germany and that's a KO.

He got robbed, end off.

[BillyBoxing]

Murray has done absolutely positively NOTHING in the whole of his so-called Boxing career. Nothing. His only claim to fame is for fights that he LOST..

You should damn know, (if you know what you're talking about and being honnest) Murray got robbed versus Sturm in Germany.

He then lost a controversial fight versus Martinez, IN ARGENTINA.

Murray has been a TOP ten MW for years and a solid contender.

Being top 10 for years in a pro boxing division deserve respect, that's not the case of freaking Leonard Bundu (latest Spence "demografic hope' jr win).

GGG is the only man to stop him, that's a solid performance IMO.

[BillyBoxing]

It really doesn't matter. Tyson beat TWO ATGs. Bumlovkin beat a string of TOMATO CANs.

No comparisons are to be made between the two...

So we are talking about a 40 years old Holmes and a light heavyweight right?

I'm not comparing GGG and Tyson, but you're talking crap so I won't my answers...

So Calzaghe beat 2 ATG too (Jones jr and Popkins), he's legacy wise above them right?

[BillyBoxing]

Now I'm convinced more than ever that YDKSAB. David Tua had truckloads of power and a chin to match. Never saw him on any P4P lists...

David Tua was a HW...with power, great LOL

Everything counts in P4P rankings: power, intangibles like chin, skills.

And we are talking about something subjective.

[BillyBoxing]

You obviously don't know **** about Boxing. Two of the three judges had the fight even going into the 5th and one judge had Brook UP.

This is PROFESSIONAL Prize Fighting, Einstein. Amateur scoring doesn't apply here...

LOL so you know your boxing because 1 brit judge had Brook ahead

LOL and what says pro boxing for scoring?

Not the amount of punches you're right, the main criteria is the effectiveness of the punches.

I guess we know who was the most effective puncher.

GGG outlanded Brook, tore his face and ribs cage up but somehow lost 4 rounds out of 5.

You guys are ridiculous and yall know that, just blinded haters.