Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Responds To Claims By Canelo, Golden Boy

[RED REP]

FACTS:

Now:

11 days ago:

http://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoy...-split--108479

They can't even keep the lies straight within their own promotional team.

First it was "Mexicans don't **** around! I'll fight him right now!" Then he dropped the belt because he didn't want to be forced to fight GGG next under a "false deadline." Then he said "my body isn't ready." Then they said they would make the fight next September.

Then 11 days ago, Oscar said,

Today Oscar said,

I mean what the ****? 30 days ago they made an offer, but 11 days ago they were going to make an offer "when the time comes"? 30 days ago they made an offer "with upside," but 11 days ago the offer they were planning to make "when the time comes" would be only a flat fee and contain no PPV upside or percentage splits?

Huh. I wonder which side wants the fight next, and which side is 100% full of ****.

Would you GGG haters like some coffee to go along with that ether?

This this this this THIS lol. You killing em mate.

[Scipio2009]

the real truth is that Canelo looses badly.

The outcome of the fight will be the outcome of the fight; Golovkin eats too many shots in close for any Canelo fight to ever be easy.

The real truth is that K2 knows that they have a 35-year old middleweight in their hands (who's starting to look rough in making his weight cut) who has yet to deliver a single payday for the company in the 6 years that they've had Golovkin, and the time to get that payday is shorter than they want to be seen acknowledging.

The Alvarez fight is K2's chance to recoup all of the money that they've invested in Golovkin and possibly make a profit, so they're going to hang on for every last penny, for the simple fact that Golovkin winning that fight isn't a given.

15 fights over 5 years; the comparison isn't completely parallel, but Showtime had nearly 3 years and 6 fights to make $250m on Floyd's US TV rights.

How much is K2 on the hook for with Golovkin?

[Eastcoast]

The outcome of the fight will be the outcome of the fight; Golovkin eats too many shots in close for any Canelo fight to ever be easy.

The real truth is that K2 knows that they have a 35-year old middleweight in their hands (who's starting to look rough in making his weight cut) who has yet to deliver a single payday for the company in the 6 years that they've had Golovkin, and the time to get that payday is shorter than they want to be seen acknowledging.

The Alvarez fight is K2's chance to recoup all of the money that they've invested in Golovkin and possibly make a profit, so they're going to hang on for every last penny, for the simple fact that Golovkin winning that fight isn't a given.

15 fights over 5 years; the comparison isn't completely parallel, but Showtime had nearly 3 years and 6 fights to make $250m on Floyd's US TV rights.

How much is K2 on the hook for with Golovkin?

Do you not ever go full-******?

[R_Walken]

The outcome of the fight will be the outcome of the fight; Golovkin eats too many shots in close for any Canelo fight to ever be easy.

The real truth is that K2 knows that they have a 35-year old middleweight in their hands (who's starting to look rough in making his weight cut) who has yet to deliver a single payday for the company in the 6 years that they've had Golovkin, and the time to get that payday is shorter than they want to be seen acknowledging.

The Alvarez fight is K2's chance to recoup all of the money that they've invested in Golovkin and possibly make a profit, so they're going to hang on for every last penny, for the simple fact that Golovkin winning that fight isn't a given.

15 fights over 5 years; the comparison isn't completely parallel, but Showtime had nearly 3 years and 6 fights to make $250m on Floyd's US TV rights.

How much is K2 on the hook for with Golovkin?

I'm sorry but this post is ******ed

Gennadys probably one of the best earners in the sport

[Ake-Dawg]

FACTS:

Now:

11 days ago:

http://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoy...-split--108479

They can't even keep the lies straight within their own promotional team.

First it was "Mexicans don't **** around! I'll fight him right now!" Then he dropped the belt because he didn't want to be forced to fight GGG next under a "false deadline." Then he said "my body isn't ready." Then they said they would make the fight next September.

Then 11 days ago, Oscar said,

Today Oscar said,

I mean what the ****? 30 days ago they made an offer, but 11 days ago they were going to make an offer "when the time comes"? 30 days ago they made an offer "with upside," but 11 days ago the offer they were planning to make "when the time comes" would be only a flat fee and contain no PPV upside or percentage splits?

Huh. I wonder which side wants the fight next, and which side is 100% full of ****.

Would you GGG haters like some coffee to go along with that ether?

So what has Loeffler received from GBP that he has to consider? His statement said there were negotiations. And why not just come out and say that no offer has been received if there is no truth to what GBP said. Seems like both sides are playing games to me.

[Scipio2009]

This fight may generate $200,000,000. Offering GGG $10,000,000 is 5% of that. Who here thinks a 95/5 split is fair? Raise your hands. Anyone?

This is just like when Floyd offered Manny a $40,000,000 flat fee to fight him when they were in their primes. That is what duckers do when they don't want to make the fight, but want to blame it on the other side. Later on when Manny was old Floyd was willing to make real offers, and Manny made 3-4 times that much.

Now a couple weeks ago, Oscar said they would make GGG an offer of a flat fee, no PPV upside, when the time came to make the fight. Not only was this an admission, just like all the talk of next September by GGG, that they don't want to fight GBP until "the right time" next September, but it is also exactly what Floyd did to Manny when he had no intention of making the fight.

Canelo is not as big a star as Floyd was. GGG is not as big a star as Pacquiao was. But the relation between Canelo and GGG in terms of stardom is similar to the relationship between Floyd and Manny.

This fight will be made when Team Canelo actually wants it, and you will know they want it when they offer a 60/40 split, or maybe they can get Team GGG to settle for 65/35, even though that's essentially Canelo getting paid twice as much for generating numbers he can't even do half of without the help of GGG or at least someone like Cotto.

Until then, while GBP keep offering 95/5 splits, 90/10, that's just another way to duck the fight, and everyone with a brain who isn't a Fl0mo or a fan of El Pojo Rojo knows it.

For a smaller fight, when GGG was younger, you could say he should just take whatever is offered because he will be a bigger star afterwards. Take $1 mil instead of $4 mil. But GGG is already 34, there may not be another big fight like this for him, and taking $1 mil instead of $4 mil, meaning giving up $3 mil, is a lot different from taking $10 mil instead of $80 mil, and giving up $70 million dollars. Even if GGG wanted to do that, his wife and his promoter would never let him

^^^lol, look at this idiot.

In the history of boxing, how many fights actually ended up doing $200m in revenue? Maybe 6, 7 fights. gtfoh.

Golovkin's debut PPV did maybe $6m in business, yet you want an equity share on a fight that "may generate $200m"?

Canelo's debut headline PPV, after being the B-side to Floyd, did triple the business. with Alvarez-Khan doing at least 7 times the business that Golovkin-Lemieux did.

By every metric (PPV revenue, live gate, audience numbers, acclaim, etc) the split should be no better than 85/15, yet folks like you still talk this deluded bull****.

[Scipio2009]

Do you not ever go full-******?

K2 loss money on the Golovkin-Lemieux fight; there's almost no way where you could pay Golovkin $2m, pay Lemieux $1.5m, pay for the rest of the televised/untelevised fight card, pay the costs needed to stage/promote the fight, and make money off of 100k PPV buys (even if the K2 "150k PPV buys" number is real, that'd still be $3.5m into the pot, with the costs of everything else, beyond the main event, still to cover).

K2 is 15 fights into their run with Golovkin.

keep your head in the sand if you want.

[Scipio2009]

I'm sorry but this post is ******ed

Gennadys probably one of the best earners in the sport

If Golovkin is such a great earner, why does K2 never release even estimates for what the event gates are? 2 tickets for $20 maybe a bigger part of K2's business than they want to admit?

[Kigali]

The outcome of the fight will be the outcome of the fight; Golovkin eats too many shots in close for any Canelo fight to ever be easy.

The real truth is that K2 knows that they have a 35-year old middleweight in their hands (who's starting to look rough in making his weight cut) who has yet to deliver a single payday for the company in the 6 years that they've had Golovkin, and the time to get that payday is shorter than they want to be seen acknowledging.

The Alvarez fight is K2's chance to recoup all of the money that they've invested in Golovkin and possibly make a profit, so they're going to hang on for every last penny, for the simple fact that Golovkin winning that fight isn't a given.

15 fights over 5 years; the comparison isn't completely parallel, but Showtime had nearly 3 years and 6 fights to make $250m on Floyd's US TV rights.

How much is K2 on the hook for with Golovkin?

[SkillspayBills]

Damn they really sent him an 8 figure offer?
**** that changes a lot. Hopefully this bout can be locked down soon.