Roach: "Jacobs/GGG is a real fight. Jacobs can box and punch. It's a real fight"

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  • MisterPullman
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    • Chollo Vista
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      #32
      Originally posted by Chuckguy
      After seeing GGG struggle with a WW I'm not sure there are any easy fights for him. I see him losing very soon.
      Combined Speed, power agility and movement will give GGG problems.

      A juggernaut with brute force will give him problems as well. Unfortunately, there's no proven juggernaut's at 160.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista
        Combined Speed, power agility and movement will give GGG problems.

        A juggernaut with brute force will give him problems as well. Unfortunately, there's no proven juggernaut's at 160.
        I want to see him lose to see if and how he comes back from a loss

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        • Reloaded
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          #34
          Originally posted by The Akbar One
          Roach is correct. It's a real fight. Jacobs has power, can box, and is taller than Golovkin.
          Would Hearns Hagler Jones Jnr etc have any problems with Jacobs , would he be be a huge fight against them would he be considered a risky fight ,,,,,,

          GGG is supposed to be better than those guys according to his fans , something just not adding up here , and I tell you what it is , Jacobs is one of the better ones in a bad bunch ,,,, he got KOed by Mora he should have little chance of beating GGG ,,, that is if the hype is right .

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            #35
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista
            People keep talking about Pirog, but you have to look at the context in those knockdowns. Jacobs was beating Pirog before that KO whether you agree or not. It's a fact.

            GGG does not move like Pirog. He doesn't have the upper body movement. Golovkin is very robotic with his movement. Very rarely does he duck out of the way of a punch. However, he has shown great agility against Lemiuex. Problem is, that's really not telling me much since Lemieux's feet are an F550 and Jacobs feet are a Corvette.

            Lemieux is also the same height as GGG with short T-rex arms. Jacobs is tall and lengthy and is therefore able to generate much more power and get more leverage than Lemeiux. Jacobs is also much faster than DL and much better in his delivery.

            Who has GGG fought with the power, speed and boxing ability of Daniel Jacobs? Jacobs is like Willie Monroe but with mutant-esque power compared to Monroe.

            If Golovkin drops his hands and lets Jacobs hit him like he let Monroe and Wade hit him, it's over. You know this. In the same breath, he can't afford to try and outbox Jacobs like he did DL. Yes, that statement is subjective, but I'm going purely off the eye test here.

            Another thing to think about is although Lemieux was KO'd by Rubio, GGG never hurt DL to the head. All the times DL was hurt was to the body. Does this mean that Rubio hits harder than GGG because he was able to hurt DL to the head? Of course not which is why I don't like using analogies like that when talking about fights.

            GGG has never faced someone of Jacobs caliber that has all the tools, power and threats of Jacobs. I'm salivating thinking about it.

            Tom Loeffler has said that Jacobs is more of a threat than Canelo for a reason.
            The thing I don't like about Jacobs recently is he seems to be falling in love with his power. Maybe it was just the Mora fight cause he said he wanted to knock him out but he was loading up on every other shot and it was too noticeable. I would like him to go back to being more of a boxer kind of like he was before the Cancer.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Rip Chudd
              The thing I don't like about Jacobs recently is he seems to be falling in love with his power. Maybe it was just the Mora fight cause he said he wanted to knock him out but he was loading up on every other shot and it was too noticeable. I would like him to go back to being more of a boxer kind of like he was before the Cancer.
              But for GGG, you need power and boxing ability. He cuts off the ring too well.

              Power is the only thing that will keep him honest.

              No one will outbox GGG for 12 rounds unless they're Mayweather

              EDIT: I take that back. If GGG tries to outbox Jacobs, Jacobs will outbox him. If GGG tries to pull that Monroe Jr and Dominic Wade schit, Jacobs will knock his ass out.

              The worse thing Jacobs could do is try to outbox GGG when GGG starts pressing. That's the worse thing he could do. He's going to have to stand his ground, fight fire with fire and make sure he's first. Speed kills and he's more than capable of reaching GGG before being reached
              Last edited by Chollo Vista; 09-19-2016, 10:32 PM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                But for GGG, you need power and boxing ability. He cuts off the ring too well.

                Power is the only thing that will keep him honest.

                No one will outbox GGG for 12 rounds unless they're Mayweather

                EDIT: I take that back. If GGG tries to outbox Jacobs, Jacobs will outbox him. If GGG tries to pull that Monroe Jr and Dominic Wade schit, Jacobs will knock his ass out.

                The worse thing Jacobs could do is try to outbox GGG when GGG starts pressing. That's the worse thing he could do. He's going to have to stand his ground, fight fire with fire and make sure he's first. Speed kills and he's more than capable of reaching GGG before being reached
                The thing is though is that Jacobs has power, he doesn't have to try and force it. He was loading up trying to KO Mora and having a bit of success, then when it looked like he started to maybe box more the KO came.

                If the GGG fight happens I just don't want the KO to be his gameplan. He just needs to be the same Daniel Jacobs he has always been, not the guy who has gotten a few knockouts recently and starts to think he's some big knockout artist.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Rip Chudd
                  The thing is though is that Jacobs has power, he doesn't have to try and force it. He was loading up trying to KO Mora and having a bit of success, then when it looked like he started to maybe box more the KO came.

                  If the GGG fight happens I just don't want the KO to be his gameplan. He just needs to be the same Daniel Jacobs he has always been, not the guy who has gotten a few knockouts recently and starts to think he's some big knockout artist.
                  I can agree with the "loading up" part.

                  But Jacobs is a big knockout artist. Out of 33 fights, 29 have been KO's. That's what he does.

                  Not to compare boxing to MMA, but a guy like Diego Sanchez got one KO and thought he was a knockout artist and went away from his bread and butter. What you're saying would apply more to Diego back in the day than Jacobs.

                  Jacobs is really a knockout artist that just so happen to be able to box as well. I don't think he should lose that mentality or instinct
                  Last edited by Chollo Vista; 09-19-2016, 10:45 PM.

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                    #39
                    GGG knocks out Jacobs faster than that Pirog guy did.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Reloaded
                      Would Hearns Hagler Jones Jnr etc have any problems with Jacobs , would he be be a huge fight against them would he be considered a risky fight ,,,,,,

                      GGG is supposed to be better than those guys according to his fans , something just not adding up here , and I tell you what it is , Jacobs is one of the better ones in a bad bunch ,,,, he got KOed by Mora he should have little chance of beating GGG ,,, that is if the hype is right .
                      Golovkin isn't better than any of the three. He might not be better than Jacobs. We will see when they fight.

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