Would Mike Tyson Be The GOAT If He Had Retired Undefeated?

[M Bison]

Lol what? The 80s heavyweights were **** when Tyson got to them!

Tyson fought much better level of opponents than Floyd ever fought plus Tyson didn't cherry pick and forcibly wait about until someone past their peak to then fight them, Tyson fought EVERYONE he was meant to at a good given time.

[M Bison]

How did you score that fight?

I pretended Maidana was the cash cow and that Maidana slipped me a few couple hundred grand in my back pocket like the time the Floyd judges scored the Castillo fight, so I had it fairly 120-108.

[Adonis Creed]

I pretended Maidana was the cash cow and that Maidana slipped me a few couple hundred grand in my back pocket like the time the Floyd judges scored the Castillo fight, so I had it fairly 120-108.

[Adonis Creed]

Tyson fought much better level of opponents than Floyd ever fought plus Tyson didn't cherry pick and forcibly wait about until someone past their peak to then fight them, Tyson fought EVERYONE he was meant to at a good given time.

What about Canelo?

[M Bison]

What about Canelo?

Well he did fight a prime Erislandy Lara who was in good form that's a guy Floyd Mayweather would NEVER fight in his entire life time he would duck that guy like he ducked Manny Pacquiao for the large majority of his career.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Tyson fought much better level of opponents than Floyd ever fought plus Tyson didn't cherry pick and forcibly wait about until someone past their peak to then fight them, Tyson fought EVERYONE he was meant to at a good given time.

Tyson had no reason to cherry pick considering the fighters were either past it or mediocre to begin with. Floyd's era had more talent in it than the 80s heavyweights. Pacquiao, Thurman, Cotto, Canelo, De la Hoya. I recognize that Floyd's era is not the best but to say Tyson's era was better is just a gigantic flop.

I understand where your coming from tho.

[M Bison]

Tyson had no reason to cherry pick considering the fighters were either past it or mediocre to begin with. Floyd's era had more talent in it than the 80s heavyweights. Pacquiao, Thurman, Cotto, Canelo, De la Hoya. I recognize that Floyd's era is not the best but to say Tyson's era was better is just a gigantic flop.

I understand where your coming from tho.

Oscar Dela Hoya was coming off a devestating KO loss to Bhop, he prior to that was schooled by sturm then before that had lost to Sugar Shane Mosley.

Pacquiao IF he fought him when he should have then you'd have a point but the fact remains he never done that he waited til he reached into his mid 30's that is unacceptable.

Miguel Cotto once again a guy who was coming off big TKO losses Margarito then Pacman then him moving up to 154lbs where he has struggled big time at every good fighter he has fought there he has struggled... Trout for example.

Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield were in their prime years when Tyson fought them and for me they're just miles ahead of Cotto and Oscar, Pacquiao being the exception BUT Pacman was a lot older the fight could have happened whenever Floyd wanted we can't just say oh Floyd beat that guy lets not factor in when he did it because If we did Joe Calzaghe would go down as the ATG best super middleweight of all time for beating Roy Jones Jr and Bhop.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Oscar Dela Hoya was coming off a devestating KO loss to Bhop, he prior to that was schooled by sturm then before that had lost to Sugar Shane Mosley.

Pacquiao IF he fought him when he should have then you'd have a point but the fact remains he never done that he waited til he reached into his mid 30's that is unacceptable.

Miguel Cotto once again a guy who was coming off big TKO losses Margarito then Pacman then him moving up to 154lbs where he has struggled big time at every good fighter he has fought there he has struggled... Trout for example.

Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield were in their prime years when Tyson fought them and for me they're just miles ahead of Cotto and Oscar, Pacquiao being the exception BUT Pacman was a lot older the fight could have happened whenever Floyd wanted we can't just say oh Floyd beat that guy lets not factor in when he did it because If we did Joe Calzaghe would go down as the ATG best super middleweight of all time for beating Roy Jones Jr and Bhop.

I can agree with that but Tyson wasn't prime when he fought these guys.

[M Bison]

I can agree with that but Tyson wasn't prime when he fought these guys.

This is somewhat Tyson own fault though getting lobbed into prison, losing arguably one of the best trainers about.

He still fought the best he could though.

[KLockard23]

This is pretty ****** to think about because any fighter who beat all of the guys he lost to would be known as the best ever. What if Joe Louis beat all of the guys he lost to? Muhammad Ali? Jack Dempsey?

Tyson lost to those guys for a reason. He wasn't good enough at that period in time. Do I think prime '87/'88 Tyson beats all of the guys he lost to? Yes. Does that make me rank him as the best heavyweight ever? No. Simply because that is my educated guess and it didn't really happen so nobody knows.

Nah, Marcaino was undefeated but very few people rank him above the likes of Ali, Leonard, Robinson, etc. Tyson had the rep of being "the baddest man on the planet" and I can only imagine how much more solidified that reputation would be if no one ever stood over him in victory.