Comments Thread For: Hopkins Confident He Would Beat Golovkin - Explains How!

[Nay_Sayer]

And up if you don't think a GGG would be competitive at MW with b-hop, I don't know what to tell you. B-hop was mid 30's before he got his first big win in Tito, and yes, Tito was smaller than Brook. So if that counts for b-hop, then I'm counting Brook.

LOL

It's painfully obvious that YDKSAB.

Trinidad is considered by some to be the hardest puncher in the history of the WW division. It comes down to Trinidad's left hook and Hearns' right hand. That's it. Brook isn't even in the conversation. Tito carried his power up to 160. Brook isn't even considered a legitimate puncher @ 147.

Please remove your head from your ass...

[Nay_Sayer]

Yup! Chump. But Hopkins is 50 years old. This is the type of fight pussie g loves. Mention that animal Ward and you see how you lames get. Yaw thought he was scared of Kovalev have not seen any of you same ******* claiming Ward was ducking on the recent threads showing your thrill for this great fight.

Oh please believe. After Ward puts that work in on Kovalev you might want to leave this site for about a week. Which I'm sure you will. But boxingscene will not be a comfortable place for you and all you other lames. Fair warning

Quoted for TRUTH.

[Nay_Sayer]

Interesting...Pavlik is no near GGG and was able to weather the storm. GGG has a better chin and more power so how do you come up with that theory? Taylors claim to fame was beating an aging fighter....what did he do after that?

Pavlik has the better resume..

[Nay_Sayer]

You dont know that for sure. GGG still has the best chin and most power out of the three. All it takes one shot from GGG and both of those guys are out cold.

Yeah, I do. Brook exposed Bumlovkin. Had he been a true MW then Bumlovkin would have taken an L. Like I said, Hopkins and Taylor - who are both superior boxers to Brook - present a BAD style matchup for the Triple Duck..

[Strive 4 Truth]

Hopkins had a great chin. He took some Monster shots at middleweight and always took them, besides when he was knocked down in Panama which probably had a lot to do with the high altitude that he was not accustomed to considering he absolutely annihilated the guy in the rematch. I would favor Gennady over Taylor though. He didn't like heavy pressure and his chin could be cracked not to mention his stamina issues and mental lapses in the ring (Hopkins didn't know that when they fought since it wasn't really exposed until he fought Pavlik).

Gennady isn't really a one punch KO guy, he's extremely heavy handed, the heaviest hands I've seen in the middleweight division in a very long time, so he's more of a heat you down over rounds type of guy. I absolutely think because of his relentless pressure and heavy hands, he would have stopped Taylor, given Taylor's weaknesses. Hopkins though, no I don't think so since not only did Hopkins have a great chin, more importantly he was extremely hard to hit flush (one of the biggest reasons his career has lasted so long). On top of that, a prime Hopkins had INCREDIBLE stamina. Definitely a guy that should have fought in the 15 round era, his stamina and work ethic was out of this world (again, prime Hopkins, not 40 year old Hopkins).

Ill say you have some valid comments in all but its still what it is on paper. Hopkins lost to Joe, Roy, and Jermaine. Ill disagree on the GGG having the one punch power since he koed several guys in the last few years alone with one shot, some even while taking a shot. So we can all make opinions on what we think would happen. Hopkins fed off of smaller guys like Tito and Oscar, both going deep into the fight. Hopkins did great things at MW and LW. Still he beat the same type of fighters GGG is beating while defending his titles. Hopkins does have a great defense and it would have been great to see how GGG would of approached him. Still we can only go off of what happend. Taylor beat Hopkins twice and Abraham made Taylor's brain bleed. Abe never really won that big fight. Sure styles make fights but if a guy can land that one punch the fight changes. Thats what great about boxing, so all we are left with is opinions. Hopkins wrote his story and GGG is writing his.

[Strive 4 Truth]

Yeah, I do. Brook exposed Bumlovkin. Had he been a true MW then Bumlovkin would have taken an L. Like I said, Hopkins and Taylor - who are both superior boxers to Brook - present a BAD style matchup for the Triple Duck..

Still comes down to opinion. Fact we have is Brook needs surgery on his face and Hopkins or Taylor are matter of debate.

[Strive 4 Truth]

I really think you're putting too much on Hopkins' later career losses, all after the age of 40 (besides Roy Jones when both were green). Why did Hopkins lose to Taylor and Calzaghe? His work rate was down. He didn't clearly lose those three fights, he didn't get beat down and no one who watched those fights live could say Hopkins lost because he wasn't talented enough. Those were all fights he could have won on the scorecards and almost certainly would have won if he was younger and had the stamina to have higher work rates (which is why I keep talking about "prime" Hopkins). Again, prime Hopkins was a beast, he did not slow down in the ring and often was more of a seek & destroy type of fighter.

Hopkins didn't feed on smaller guys it's just that a couple smaller guys happened to be the biggest fights for him and had the remaining middleweight belts that Hopkins wanted (just like Gennady, Hopkins goal was to unify 160). Case in point, Trinidad, after destroying guys at 154, moved up to 160 and absolutely annihilated WBA middleweight title holder William Joppy. Immediately before the Trinidad fight, Hopkins had the IBF and WBC middleweight belts. In order for Hopkins to get these belts, he had to participate in Don King's middleweight tournament, which was designed for Tito to win and go on to fight Roy Jones at 168 after (the tournaments trophy had Tito's name on it before it was finishing!). The undefeated Trinidad was a 6-1 favorite to beat Hopkins, higher at some places. Hopkins of course put on a masterful performance and unified three out of the four belts.

The last remaining belt was the WBO, which for the longest time was an international belt, held in Germany, the UK, etc and simply alluded American fighters for years. Eventually, Oscar wanted to win a belt in yet another weight class and fought Felix Sturm for the WBO belt. He won, bad decision but Oscar owned the final belt. To his credit, it was Oscar who was calling out Hopkins, he wanted the fight. Oscar requested a catch-weight of 158 pounds and for good measure, Hopkins weighed in at a lean 156 pounds. Hopkins wins and unifies all the belts, one of the only men in history to own the WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF and Ring belts:



Now, would you call that feasting on smaller men? In order to unify the division, Hopkins HAD to fight Trinidad and Oscar, as both were middleweight title holders at the time. Plus, Trinidad was a very big favorite over Hopkins. The Oscar fight means very little as far as Hopkins'legacy goes, especially considering he should have lost to Sturm and was a bit past prime. But no one turns down Oscar and to do so would be damn right idiotic considering what a fight with Oscar meant. It was Hopkins first money fight (he made a career high $10 million) and pushed him into boxing stardom, becoming one of boxings biggest names (as did Pacquiao and Mayweather, and Shane Mosley and everyone who beat Oscar, even the guys who lost to Oscar were put on the map). Canelo could easily be Golovkins Trinidad. Mayweather, just for an example, could be Golovkins Oscar. If those fights happened for Golovkin, would we say Golovkin feasted on smaller men? Of course not. Canelo is the lineal middleweight champion. It would be a great win for Gennady, his best win, exactly like Trinidad was for Hopkins. If Floyd came back and won a title at middleweight and then challenged Golovkin to a middleweight fight, would we criticize Gennady for taking the fight? Of course not, as that would be the biggest, and by far the most money for Golovkin, exactly as Oscar was for Hopkins (Oscar was a middleweight title holder and a bit past prime, naturally smaller, just like if my crazy scenario happened, Floyd would be a middleweight title holder and past prime, but the results would be the same - massive paydays, boxing stardom and wins over guys that didn't belong in the weight class, bit legendary names nonetheless). It's really just about context here and when you put the fighters side by side in these regards, it's exactly the same.

Hopkins fought and beat all the top middleweights of his time, he unified all the belts, just like Gennady is trying to do. Just because two middleweight title holders that Hopkins beat happened to have came from lower weight classes prior to winning their middleweight titles doesn't mean Hopkins feasted on them, they were in his division after all. Same would be true for Gennady if he beats Canelo or if Cotto would have fought him when he was champion.

Look I dont disagree but whatever is on paper is on paper and no one can change it. GGG is doing the same thing Hopkins did at 160 but gets all kind of junk for it. So many in the business admit how avoided GGG is but still rather pick him apart for his fights even tho everyone runs the other way. And like the Oscar and Tito deal for Hopkins, the same goes for GGG with Cotto and Canelo, except they would rather give some ridiculous offer to fight GGG in hopes to avoid the fight. Both had MW titles but both choose to not fight at the weight. Why do people choose to hammer GGG when other fighters do not want the fight? GGG will continue to do what Hopkins did defend and try to win the titles in his div, but will get criticized for doing it. Tito and Oscar are arguably in the top 5 that Hopkins fought at 160, both were smaller and the other was Taylor and he lost. It is what it is, GGG will most likely fight Jacobs next and will get criticized for it but Jacobs is a good fighter. Guys like Saunders who has a title and Eubank Jr. just talk and walk the other way.

[Sweet_Science2]

your dumb ass is banned again

Guess whose back punk?????? Fuucking lame