WADA Hacked

[Eff Pandas]

you have to admit the chances of both sisters needing a TUE is hella fishy!

I definitely don't. Like I said I got big problems with whats on the banned substances list to begin with. That being the case I think there are many legit reasons for TUE's to be submitted & granted. So unless someone disputes why anyone needed a TUE or its shown that some athletes with the same issues aren't treated the same in regards to TUE's this is a nothing situation.

[nacho daddy]

Once again, a certain group of posters have derailed what should have been an informative thread, discussing the validity of modern sports testing.

I'm going to get back on track. Another group of high profile athletes have been revealed as having taken banned substances. Two of the most well known, are Bradley Wiggins and Chris Froome, both from Britain. Whereas Froome's may see more "innocent", 4 of the 7 TUEs (over a period of 5 years) for Wiggins were for a period of 12 months each.

A lot of the drugs that have been approved, are often used to increase airway space in the lungs (bronchodilation). It seems the world is filled with asthmatic athletes who all seem to be competing in events which require extraneous pressure on the lungs. To top it all off, these athletes sure do get ill a lot, in fact, they get ill enough to be prescribed steroids on what seems to be a pretty regular basis.

I'm a 26 year old non athlete and I get ill far less than any of these people. So, the supposedly extremely fit specimens of humanity aren't actually that fit.

Once again, something is not right here.

Oh and just to go back to what I was saying, if these athletes are so ill and are requiring the use of corticosteroids so often, especially inhaled ones, then they shouldn't be competing.

This point is further expressed by Professor John ****inson, of the University of Kent, a world-leading expert in respiratory issues, who says, "“If someone’s asthma is that bad they should not be competing.”

The issue isn't just TUEs but the large number of them handed out over a short period of time, all of which has allowed the use of corticosteroids, substances which can help enhance performance.

yea baby!!

[Divine Hammer]

many american top athletes are taking a lot of steroids. not surprised that athletes like the williams sisters and floyd are big time steroid abusers.

[soul_survivor]

yea baby!!

I know

many american top athletes are taking a lot of steroids. not surprised that athletes like the williams sisters and floyd are big time steroid abusers.

It's not just an American issue, although it is probably more prevalent in the US due to the large sums of money involved in sports over there.

In the UK and across Europe, there are similar issues, probably on a smaller scale but it still happens. Testing agencies are complicit as long as the person involved is a "star", so they are given more leeway than the average sports person.

What we have to understand is, sport over the last 70 years is vastly different to sport in any other aspect of human history. Sport is now an industry and industrialists need sports people as the raw fuel with which to make money.

[nacho daddy]

I know



It's not just an American issue, although it is probably more prevalent in the US due to the large sums of money involved in sports over there.

In the UK and across Europe, there are similar issues, probably on a smaller scale but it still happens. Testing agencies are complicit as long as the person involved is a "star", so they are given more leeway than the average sports person.

What we have to understand is, sport over the last 70 years is vastly different to sport in any other aspect of human history. Sport is now an industry and industrialists need sports people as the raw fuel with which to make money.

now that is the best post here. it is the big money that allows for people to be bought off to skewer the test results

[soul_survivor]

now that is the best post here. it is the big money that allows for people to be bought off to skewer the test results

Thanks.

Change can occur but it can only occur (on a large scale) through the fans. If you look at most of the responses here, especially by the Americans, it's all "yay, America! we can never be wrong" rather than, "you know, let's take responsibility for this and make a difference". You know what that difference is?

Stop supporting the damn cheats! Stop going to their matches, stop attending their public appearances and stop buying their merchandise. No money, no corruption.