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  • bigdunny1
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    #31
    Originally posted by Pigeons
    If he can make 154, what's wrong with this?
    EXACTLY. If he wins on sat he will have beaten Ring's current number 1, 3, 6, and 8 top ranked Jr Middleweights in the world. So much for he is not fighting top fighters crap. He's 26 and already fought more world champs then most fighters face in their entire career. You got guys his age who are still called prospects and haven't yet faced a single top 10 ranked fighter. If he can still make weight then this is where he belongs. He fought 1 lb over in non 154 title fights. Big different then moving up to 160 to a new division something many fighters like GGG at age 35 refuse to do.

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    • icha
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      #32
      Originally posted by sicko
      If he can make 154 I think he stays their for awhile. If he beats Liam Smith Saturday so what does he do for December? Does the winner of Rosado vs Monroe Jr have to move down?
      does cotto has an opponent yet?? i really hope they can start getting fights with haymon fighters, that will make the division really interesting... the khan fight was a beggining, but khans dad is the one that made it happen...

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      • Progrssive_Jedi
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        #33
        Originally posted by icha
        and that shouldnt rule out a ggg fight, "remember 154 to 168 doe, i can make 154 easy..."
        Where is 155 on the division scale.

        GGG clearly sad he's not going to fight anyone below 160 except Floyd.

        Canelo wanted to win the MW championship, now he's holding it hostage, seemingly for a long while.

        Let's not forget Canelo's promise to fans

        It was Canelo who said he told his team to make the fight.

        It was Canelo who said he doesn't **** around.

        It was add La Hoya who said he'd be fight GGG in a year.

        It was De La Hoya who promised he would act like Floyd.

        I guess that's not gonna happen.

        Originally posted by OnePunch
        Good.

        Then he has vacated the "lineal" title, and GGG-Saunders can be for the whole enchilada......
        He can't vacate the lineal. The ring mag title can be taken away after 18 months of fighting no top five MW. But the lineal 160 title is Canelo's until he loses it.

        Which is why what he's doing us problematic.

        Originally posted by icha
        acording to canelo it was delusional khan who wanted to become the MW champion, but who knows, i wasnt there....
        He also said same thing about Cotto, then Cotto was stripped and Canelo fought for it anyways.

        Truth is, Canelo appears to be hiding the 160 pound lineal title.

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          #34
          Originally posted by icha
          does cotto has an opponent yet?? i really hope they can start getting fights with haymon fighters, that will make the division really interesting... the khan fight was a beggining, but khans dad is the one that made it happen...
          Lamont Peterson been rumored as a possible opponent for him which wouldn't be bad depending on the weight

          But he is already #3 at 154 rated by the WBO so he is in line to get a shot a the winner of Liam Smith vs Canelo which is the only reason why I mentioned him as Canelo possible opponent in May
          Last edited by sicko; 09-13-2016, 02:05 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
            Where is 155 on the division scale.

            GGG clearly sad he's not going to fight anyone below 160 except Floyd.

            Canelo wanted to win the MW championship, now he's holding it hostage, seemingly for a long while.

            Let's not forget Canelo's promise to fans

            It was Canelo who said he told his team to make the fight.

            It was Canelo who said he doesn't **** around.

            It was add La Hoya who said he'd be fight GGG in a year.

            It was De La Hoya who promised he would act like Floyd.

            I guess that's not gonna happen.



            He can't vacate the lineal. The ring mag title can be taken away after 18 months of fighting no top five MW. But the lineal 160 title is Canelo's until he loses it.

            Which is why what he's doing us problematic.



            He also said same thing about Cotto, then Cotto was stripped and Canelo fought for it anyways.

            Truth is, Canelo appears to be hiding the 160 pound lineal title.
            who is talking about 155??? 154 is a division and is called junior middleweight or super welterweight, ggg said him self that he will go to 154 for ppv fights, not just floyd, so he better start on a diet... and by the way canelo paid his wbc fees way before cotto was stripped, no one knew cotto wasnt going to pay until a day before the fight, maybe the wbc knew, but those crooks werent going to tell canelo and miss on a big event like that...
            and about the lineal title, he got it by fighting a jmw at 155, maybe ggg should do the same if he cares so much about it...

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            • Progrssive_Jedi
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              #36
              Originally posted by bigdunny1
              EXACTLY. If he wins on sat he will have beaten Ring's current number 1, 3, 6, and 8 top ranked Jr Middleweights in the world. So much for he is not fighting top fighters crap. He's 26 and already fought more world champs then most fighters face in their entire career. You got guys his age who are still called prospects and haven't yet faced a single top 10 ranked fighter. If he can still make weight then this is where he belongs. He fought 1 lb over in non 154 title fights. Big different then moving up to 160 to a new division something many fighters like GGG at age 35 refuse to do.
              You'd be happy as hell if he could make 154 again, because you think he skates until GGG leaves. GGG has tried to fight SMW, unlike Canelo, who is running from 160, with the lineal.

              By your logic GGG has beaten more top ten MW, while being ducked by Canelo, Jacobs, oh heck all top MW since 2012.

              Let's not pretend the rankings are not by GBP owned ring mag.

              Now how many did he beat at JRMW.

              Hmm. Not Lara. Hit Cotto. So not 1 and 3.

              What about fighting Andrade, Charlo, Charlo, J-Rock then.

              He's about to be champ then. Charlo and Charlo are 2 and 4. Andrade is 5 and J-rock 7.

              So let's get serious, Cotto doesn't beat Charlos, Andrade, Williams. If Canelo is wanting top fighters, Cotto and Smith wouldn't beat the others.

              While he's holding that lineal hostage until GGG leaves MW, he should give a legit top JRMW a shot.

              I bet Canelo won't even fight Brook.

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              • icha
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                #37
                Originally posted by sicko
                Lamont Peterson been rumored as a possible opponent for him which wouldn't be bad depending on the weight

                But he is already #3 at 154 rated by the WBO so he is in line to get a shot a the winner of Liam Smith vs Canelo which is the only reason why I mentioned him as Canelo possible opponent in May
                canelo has the MSG on hold for december, so i wouldnt rule that fight out, im sure that roc nation will love that rematch since they seem to have trouble finding a ppv partner...

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                • Progrssive_Jedi
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by icha
                  who is talking about 155??? 154 is a division and is called junior middleweight or super welterweight, ggg said him self that he will go to 154 for ppv fights, not just floyd, so he better start on a diet... and by the way canelo paid his wbc fees way before cotto was stripped, no one knew cotto wasnt going to pay until a day before the fight, maybe the wbc knew, but those crooks werent going to tell canelo and miss on a big event like that...
                  and about the lineal title, he got it by fighting a jmw at 155, maybe ggg should do the same if he cares so much about it...
                  First, Canelo could of easily said he didn't want the WBC title to be on. It technically shouldn't have been. Canelo said he wanted to be the first Mexican MW lineal champ. But he doesn't want to defend it, especially against the guy he told fans he would, repeatedly.

                  GGG made it clear he's not going to 154 for anyone but Floyd.

                  Hello, JRMW stops at 154. I know you Canelo fans love to pretend it's still JRMW, but if Canelo comes in at 155 for this smith fight, he won't get the title.

                  Because 155 is is MW, no matter how hard you all try to pretend it's not.

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                  • SeekDaGreat
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                    #39
                    Do you guys realize, "the time being could mean 1-2 fights... Basically, the end of the year? There was no plan to fight GGG this year anyways...

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                    • Progrssive_Jedi
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by icha
                      canelo has the MSG on hold for december, so i wouldnt rule that fight out, im sure that roc nation will love that rematch since they seem to have trouble finding a ppv partner...
                      Peterson. I hope he does. Every move GBP has made for Canelo since Cotto has tarnished him further.

                      The guy recently said, along with his team, that they were going to 160 soon, but like most said it was because the Smith fight is struggling to sell like they thought.

                      Bet you they won't be releasing the ppv numbers.

                      Let me recap Canelo's GGG statements (again):

                      It was Canelo who said he told his team to make the fight.

                      It was Canelo who said he doesn't **** around.

                      It was add La Hoya who said he'd be fight GGG in a year.

                      GGG better be ready for me (because when he's at 168 or gets old, I'm coming).

                      It was De La Hoya who promised he would act like Floyd.

                      Les just pretend Canelo isn't suddenly killing himself to make 154 because of GGG.

                      After Missing weight for Angulo, Canelo has been fighting at MW. Now he was in line to face Golovking, he suddenly wants to kill himself to make 154 again.

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