Thread for: Roman Gonzalez Vacates 112 WBC Belt, will keep fighting at 115.

[mannysavage]

C'mon Dunn, not to get personal but I know you favor the brothas and Cuadras fought a slick fight. He was robbed. Cuadras had better angles, lateral movement, faster hands, and a harder punch. Floyd uses way more lateral movement and less punching and wins fights against guys like Maidana but you wanna protect Gonzalez? C'mon man...

DUDE WHAT FIGHT were u watching???
I dunno if youre trolling or not but there is no way Cuadras won that fight, i mean you have to be either biased or looking at the wrong things when scoring a fight if u had Cuadras winning...
If i remember correctly Gonzalez won 1-5 Cuadras 6 Gonzalez 7 Cuadras 8 and the 9-12 could have gone either way, i gave 10-11 to Cuadras and 12 was pretty even, either way my point being, going in to the 9th round Gonzalez had enough to points to win the fight unless he would get knocked out in the last rounds
Yes im aware Gonzalez face was swollen while Cuadras face seemed fine, so what? just shows Cuadras has a very good chin, Cuadras took alot of punishment this fight, also worth noting was that Cuadras was physically bigger and stronger then Gonzalez so he definetly had the advantage coming in
Gonzalez gave a great perfomance against a bigger opponent, what more can you possibly want you biased fk?
If you were trolling id understand but if really think Cuadras won then youre fking ******, really pisses me off to hear people spit this nonsense without no knowledge
With that said i was very impressed with Cuadras even in defeat, i thought much less of him but he proved me wrong and gave a great perfomance but he DID NOT WIN

[GMAN SUPREME]

that's funny.




Stick to GGG threads and such, you have no idea of what awaits Roman North of 112. He's cornered at this point.

Pue... Gajia a Nicaragua...pue

gonzalez is coming for all the belts 1 down 3 more to go.your tears will be sweet.hold this

[Aztekkas]

gonzalez is coming for all the belts 1 down 3 more to go.your tears will be sweet.hold this

again, you know nothing. I won't even waste my time on someone who knows absolutely nothing about the lower weights outside of Roman and his last 4 opponents he fought on HBO. Go back to idolizing a middleweight who just had a brilliant win over a feared Welter.

Edit: forgot to laugh at your ******ity of mentioning all other belts . I don't know why I'm bothering to ask you but when was the last time Roman unified a division? I mean.. He's fought in 4 divisions by now, he surely must have ruled all other divisions with an iron fist. Don't worry, I'll wait.

[1hourRun]

serrote is hilarious doe. Anyway, I respect you Run. We have always had some fun debates. Even though Chocoputito stole our win, no hard feelings against you.



Tell me about it lmao. It is what it is and I saw Cuadras win it 7-5 as well.

Roman: pue... Pue gane claramente

Chocolatito gave Cuadras a proper calentada homes and took his strap back to Barrio Esperanza! showing dees foos whats up dawg they know quien controla 115 now.

I be playin with you too Naco.

[Dinamita 03]

DUDE WHAT FIGHT were u watching???
I dunno if youre trolling or not but there is no way Cuadras won that fight, i mean you have to be either biased or looking at the wrong things when scoring a fight if u had Cuadras winning...
If i remember correctly Gonzalez won 1-5 Cuadras 6 Gonzalez 7 Cuadras 8 and the 9-12 could have gone either way, i gave 10-11 to Cuadras and 12 was pretty even, either way my point being, going in to the 9th round Gonzalez had enough to points to win the fight unless he would get knocked out in the last rounds
Yes im aware Gonzalez face was swollen while Cuadras face seemed fine, so what? just shows Cuadras has a very good chin, Cuadras took alot of punishment this fight, also worth noting was that Cuadras was physically bigger and stronger then Gonzalez so he definetly had the advantage coming in
Gonzalez gave a great perfomance against a bigger opponent, what more can you possibly want you biased fk?
If you were trolling id understand but if really think Cuadras won then youre fking ******, really pisses me off to hear people spit this nonsense without no knowledge
With that said i was very impressed with Cuadras even in defeat, i thought much less of him but he proved me wrong and gave a great perfomance but he DID NOT WIN

The 1st and 5th rounds were Cuadras rounds imo. Many people in the RBR thread also said the same thing during the fight. Kellerman throughout the fight had the same opinion. I'm not saying he definitely won 1 and 5 but plenty of people had Cuadras winning those rounds even Harold gave the 5th round to Cuadras.

By your own admission you gave Cuadras rounds 6,8,10,11, and admitted the 9th and 12th were even rounds. It's not hard to see how someone can have Cuadras winning. You yourself gave Cuadras 4 rounds and admitted to two other rounds were pretty even, so you wouldn't seem to have a problem with a draw.

I fail to see how you call someone ****** by possible giving Cuadras one more round than yourself, unless you're insultig yourself.

[Ham Porter]

Mexicans reduced to crying robbery over some marathon slapper not getting a decision.

[mannysavage]

The 1st and 5th rounds were Cuadras rounds imo. Many people in the RBR thread also said the same thing during the fight. Kellerman throughout the fight had the same opinion. I'm not saying he definitely won 1 and 5 but plenty of people had Cuadras winning those rounds even Harold gave the 5th round to Cuadras.

By your own admission you gave Cuadras rounds 6,8,10,11, and admitted the 9th and 12th were even rounds. It's not hard to see how someone can have Cuadras winning. You yourself gave Cuadras 4 rounds and admitted to two other rounds were pretty even, so you wouldn't seem to have a problem with a draw.

I fail to see how you call someone ****** by possible giving Cuadras one more round than yourself, unless you're insultig yourself.

As i said i dont remember exactly which rounds, but 8-4 Gonzalez is probably the most accurate, still tho from watching the fight, Gonzalez got the better of most exchanges in the fight, Cuadras had the speed advantage and he did unleash flashy combinations especially in the later stages of the of the fight, but Gonzalez clearly was the better fighter overall, more variation on his punches, and he seemed to hurt Cuadras at different occasions
This was by no means a walk in the park for Gonzalez but he won clearly IMO
AND the guy that posted said that Cuadras was robbed not that it was a closecall, which is either a troll statement or a ****** alert statement, you decide

[GMAN SUPREME]

Mexicans reduced to crying robbery over some marathon slapper not getting a decision.

oh the irony.LMAO

[dranoel]

Its called lateral movement Lederman Jr. Gonzalez didnt once cut off the ring and get Cuadras in trouble. Cuadras was to slick & to fast for the plodder.

Did you watch the fight?
Gonzalez threw more and out-landed Caudras. So all his footwork and angles most likely hindered his output quality. Or Roman's defense on the front foot is incredible. So you have a guy who supposedly uses this very impressive lateral technique(which wasn't the case).

Lateral technique used impressively is efficient-- something like Rigondeaux. Quality spacing enough to get out of situations and quality punches.

When you're running and throwing, arm and slaps-- that's not quality boxing.

I think you're confusing the two. Quality boxing technique deals with fundamentals-- not unorthodox made-up slap punches that miss nonetheless and backward pivots resembling the quality of a drunkard. You shouldn't be all over the place in the ring to make a guy miss in order for one to maintain control of the ring, it's redundant and unnecessary. Either the pressure is affecting your thinking, or you aren't skilled enough to actually avoid punches well so you OVERREACT.

Even the crowd voted-- because entirely, the situation was Caudras was boxing well until the latter stages of the fight, where he landed 10 punches in the 8th and literally ran for the most part.

Sure Roman was going to miss a non-stationary targeted that is using his feet to dash away while pressing the action the way he was. Can factor ring size to opponent length and size. No matter who you are, or how good you're at cutting off the ring that'll always be the case against a guy who literally runs, and is likely the bigger puncher(though that feature seemed to belong to the guy pressing the action). There's no way around that, really. You're reacting as an offensive fighter.
Sort of like a corner-back in Football. They're ratios of being on par with a receiver at their level is pretty awful due to the very same nature of circumstance. Don't get lateral movement confused with slick and actual boxing. I was amazed Gonzalez even landed punches on this guy by the end of the fight.

So if you think he couldn't cut off the ring, all while maintaining better stats, and such-- then you're objectively mistaken.

[Boxfan83]

DUDE WHAT FIGHT were u watching???
I dunno if youre trolling or not but there is no way Cuadras won that fight, i mean you have to be either biased or looking at the wrong things when scoring a fight if u had Cuadras winning...
If i remember correctly Gonzalez won 1-5 Cuadras 6 Gonzalez 7 Cuadras 8 and the 9-12 could have gone either way, i gave 10-11 to Cuadras and 12 was pretty even, either way my point being, going in to the 9th round Gonzalez had enough to points to win the fight unless he would get knocked out in the last rounds
Yes im aware Gonzalez face was swollen while Cuadras face seemed fine, so what? just shows Cuadras has a very good chin, Cuadras took alot of punishment this fight, also worth noting was that Cuadras was physically bigger and stronger then Gonzalez so he definetly had the advantage coming in
Gonzalez gave a great perfomance against a bigger opponent, what more can you possibly want you biased fk?
If you were trolling id understand but if really think Cuadras won then youre fking ******, really pisses me off to hear people spit this nonsense without no knowledge
With that said i was very impressed with Cuadras even in defeat, i thought much less of him but he proved me wrong and gave a great perfomance but he DID NOT WIN

I as watching the fight on Bias ass HBO, what were you watching? IDK man you might know more than me about boxing, who knows I dont know you and dont know you well enough to insult your intelligence like you did to me but I will answer your questions man. I just wonder if youd insult me to my face. Anyways its cool man to each there own.

So to answer your questionsNo I am not Bias. Thats actually part of my whole complaint. HBO was Bias and people that watched (like you I am assuming) just heard HBO rant about Gonzalez when he WAS MISSING, also IDK where punchstats said Gonzalez landed that many. Punch stats made it look like Gonzalez beat the **** out of Cuadras. When that was not the case.

I never said anything about Gonzalez face, but in hindsight it was telling who landed the harder shots. Not only that Cuadras still had energy in the championship rds when Gonzalez looked like a beat man. Honestly man, my only complaint about Cuadras was he laid off the body but Im assuming it was because the head was so easy to hit. Gonzalez punches in the last 3 rds were telling on who landed the better punches more than his swollen eyes. Gonzalez was also worn out from missing so much, it happens.

And you know what man respect to Gonzalez for moving up to prove himself that takes balls but balls dont always win a boxing match. Skills do and Gonzalez got out boxed. 7-5. Also what happened to having to beat the champ? Also isnt it Max Kellerman that always says who would you rather be after the fight as a way of scoring the fight? Well I am sure (decision aside) a majority of people wouldve rather been Cuadras.

Oh and lastly, from what you are saying I think its safe to assume you watched the fight once, try watching it on mute and tuck your feelings away. Then talk, its obvious even watching you couldve seen cuadras as the winner.