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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View PostJRock, Demetrius Andrade, and Erislandy Lara, last I checked, were all still at 154. You add Canelo, Cotto, the Charlo brothers, and the young fighters coming up (Erickson Lubin standing out to me), and you've got a division that could literally be 7/8 deep in top-level fighters.
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Originally posted by hitking View PostJust for perspective. Floyd Mayweather was widely criticized for fighting JMM, a fighter moving up two divisions. Even though he did so basically coming off a two year hiatus. Floyd beat him easily, as expected, and there was little to no excitement from his fanbase.
Conversely, GGG's fanbase is going crazy like beatinf Kell Brook. Brook is a good fighter. But JMM was pretty much top 5 on every P4P list when he fought Floyd. Brook didn't bring those kinda credentials to the ring.
And that's the difference between a truly great fighter. And a hypejob that people simply wanna believe is as great as they think he is. If GGG is truly great, you're not excited nor impressed by his performance today.
2. Brook might not be top 5 p4p but he is #1, 2 at worst WW, and coming in an undefeated champion. It's a credible win no matter how you slice it.
3. GGG was impressive tonight, and here's why: he chose to risk more and come forward knowing he would take some to give some. When a fighter who can outbox his opponent but choses to savage him with no regard for safety, when your opponent shows you he isn't intimidated by your shots and shrugs them off, that's fearsome. That's intimidating. If you've ever boxed before, if you've ever been tested and have faced a guy who shows no emotion and just comes for you, that has a major psychological effect on someone who isn't extremely strong minded. You see a guy who "looked bad". I see a guy who purpously chose to disregard defense and go for the kill every round. That isn't a flaw, it's a strength. A testament to how good he is, not how bad he is.
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GGG didn't seem to care about Brooks power. He was just trying to walk him down and land bombs. I gave Brook 2 rounds though very impressed with his performance. GGG looked terrible today.
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Originally posted by dranoel View Post5 round tko but Golovkin looks bad.
I'm definitely from a different planet.
All of those shots Kell was throwing were hyped from the crowd and eating gloves.
He landed maybe 2 solid uppercuts, 2 solid right hands, and 1 hook, and 1 slap hook.
Congratulations, Kell Brook is master race.
Fight wasn't even close imo, good stoppage.
And I'm pretty sure that was a knocked down from a tiny left hook when he slipped because right after that -- his eye was bothering him.
He could of been a little more honest about how the body shots took a huge toll out of him as well. In the fifth round he gave up movement and stayed on the ropes -- clearly not something a fighter likes to do. And took a beating. Every jab that landed on him was lifting him off like 2 feet off the canvas lol
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Originally posted by !WAR BROOK! View Postfixed fight, this is why I hate the UK nothing but corruption.
lol carson jones put brook through hell and no didnt even think about stopping it.
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Originally posted by bender2000 View Postcouldn't agree more exactly how I seen it , I don't know what people are saying in that ggg looked beatable ??? he dominated the fight walked right through anything brook threw , and brook thought he woobled ggg ???? no ****ing way , hes lucky the corner stopped it because he was heading for a breakdown knockout.
but he was laughing at how Brook's face was bouncing off a jab.
But I watched the replay-- the only thing Brook did pull out was a confident, and cool demeanor. Aside from that, he was supposed to be the faster guy, so looked as to that. I gave him 4 rounds in my other post before the fight because I knew he had good defense. But just not enough to take monster power shots that, even if 1 landed, will wear someone down. And it showed by the fifth.
Nobody gave Gennady his credit for the attributes he has shown his entire career. But everyone gave Brook all the credit for lasting half a fight and having tagged and making GGG miss.
Skills aren't everything in boxing as I've said. Takes grit, endurance, and a whole lot of other things. And even though natural weight was the issue, it was clear who was the winner just based on how the fight ended in the fifth round.
Reminds me of the Taylor vs Chavez fight though, just a preference thing among people --quantity versus quality--
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Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post1. I was a huge Floyd fan and I was hyped for the JMM fight, because I knew what it was - two elite and great fighters going at it in their primes. Weight has no bearing on getting outboxed, and outboxing one of the best combination punchers ever is to be respected.
2. Brook might not be top 5 p4p but he is #1, 2 at worst WW, and coming in an undefeated champion. It's a credible win no matter how you slice it.
3. GGG was impressive tonight, and here's why: he chose to risk more and come forward knowing he would take some to give some. When a fighter who can outbox his opponent but choses to savage him with no regard for safety, when your opponent shows you he isn't intimidated by your shots and shrugs them off, that's fearsome. That's intimidating. If you've ever boxed before, if you've ever been tested and have faced a guy who shows no emotion and just comes for you, that has a major psychological effect on someone who isn't extremely strong minded. You see a guy who "looked bad". I see a guy who purpously chose to disregard defense and go for the kill every round. That isn't a flaw, it's a strength. A testament to how good he is, not how bad he is.
GGG didn't do anything special tonight. He overwhelmed an outgunned, smaller opponent. In contrast, Floyd completely outboxed and outclassed a guy that's a master technician himself. Even Kovalev's performance against Hopkins was more impressivr because he basically beat Bernard at his own game. Kovalev played Bernard's game, gave him the best opportunity to win, and still shut him out. That's the equivalent of Floyd coming out beating Manny in a street fight. In all honesty. All I saw today was a gun beat up a smaller guy that's probably a better fighter in the P4P sense. If Kell Brook brings real middleweight stegnth and punching power to the ring. And brought a middleweight chin. I think this fight plays out very differently. The same couldn't be said for Floyd-JMM. The way that fight played out. Floyd could have been the smaller guy and still won comfortably.
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Love the "if Brook was someone else, this is a loss" posts.
Fact is, GGG is a ****ing animal and anybody that faces him is in for a fight. Canelo, BJS, Jacobs, whoever, i think he beats all of them. Brook had some good moments but it was just too much for him. GGG is one of the best boxers going right now and that's the bottom line. If people want to keep making excuses, go for it. Doesn't change how good GGG is
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