Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao: I Still Believe I Beat Floyd Mayweather!

[Spoon23]

They are all cheats in my book, Marquez too.

So Zaroku.. Since you havent answered this question.

Since we all know, Cheating doesnt score points buddy. Cheaters are punished or gets locked up. In any profession. Cheating is universally wrong.

Does this trophies below mean anything? Yes or no?

Floyd cheated, my opinion.

I believe Floyd cheated. I feel he got favorable treatment

[Zaroku]

So Zaroku.. Since you havent answered this question.

Since we all know, Cheating doesnt score points buddy. Cheaters are punished or gets locked up. In any profession. Cheating is universally wrong.

Does this trophies below mean anything? Yes or no?

Manny, Marquez, Floyd, and others need to return belts and titles

That being said: "they all cheat. Some better than others"

I posted an article called the fix is in. I'll add it later

[Zaroku]

So Zaroku.. Since you havent answered this question.

Since we all know, Cheating doesnt score points buddy. Cheaters are punished or gets locked up. In any profession. Cheating is universally wrong.

Does this trophies below mean anything? Yes or no?

OPEN Letter to ESPN
SOME Observations
2011 MLS Finals
English Premier League Finals
Pacquiao v. Bradley
2012 London Olympics
Some Good Ol' NASCAR Fixin'
GAMES Fixed Worldwide
COSELL'S Wisdom
WE SELL Fantasy
"I'll make a lot of money off the rematch, but this was outrageous." - boxing promoter Bob Arum on the judges' decision in the Pacquiao-Bradley fight, June 9, 2012


People are reacting to the supposedly unjust decision which awarded underdog Timothy Bradley a split decision victory over WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao as if they've never seen a fixed boxing match before.

Don't these people - including the writers and talking heads on ESPN - know their boxing history? Boxing was corrupt, is corrupt, and will continue to be corrupt until the sport finally dies.

The reason for this is due to the ease in which a boxing match can be fixed. Much like tennis (which has had its share of ********/fixing scandals of late), when only two people are competing - even if its in front of a live pay-per-view audience - you only need to control one person to rig the fight. A potential fixer has several tools at his disposal to get to a boxer, but the primary motivator is likely greed.

Fighters fight because there is money attached to the bout. No one would take such punishment for fun.

So when an opportunity arises in which a boxer could not only receive his share of the promised gate, but can double (or more if he has someone bet against him) his take home pay by intentionally losing a bout, only personal integrity may stand in the way.
Of course, back in the day (meaning, perhaps, as long ago as yesterday), crooked promoters who control the boxing industry could also sway a boxer's decision to fix a fight with the promise of future opportunities. Think back (way back to the late 1940s) to the famed fixed fight between "The Raging Bull" Jake LaMotta and Billy Fox. LaMotta intentionally lost the bout in order to get a coveted title fight (this true story is depicted in the Martin Scorsese movie Raging Bull). Had LaMotta not done as instructed, he may have never been the middleweight champion of the world because Frankie Carbo, the mobster controlling boxing, would not have allowed it. Do a mobster a favor, and he does one for you.

Besides the rare exception of Rocky Marciano (a good Italian lad who was likely protected by the mafia) who went undefeated and retired as heavyweight champion with a 49-0 record, most championship fighters lose. Them's the breaks, as they say. Yet when Pacquiao lost to Bradley, shock erupted throughout the boxing world. But Pacquiao couldn't stay on top forever. How long were boxing fans going to wait for Floyd Mayweather to get out of prison and make the long-awaited match between himself and Pacquiao?

Instead, the new champion Bradley - who already hyped a rematch with Pacquiao prior to fighting him by printing up false flyers/posters along with an oversized ticket for their soon-to-be second fight - has inserted himself into Mayweather's role and created an instant demand for a second bout with Pacquiao. How easy of a sell will this fight be? How much will both fighters - the one "given" the title, and the one "robbed" of it - ultimately earn for their roles in these matches?

[Spoon23]

They are all cheats in my book, Marquez too.

Not the answer to the question I wanted you to answer Zaroku.

3rd time is a charm.

So again Zaroku..

Since we all know, Cheating doesnt score points and Cheaters are punished or even gets you locked up, if found a fraud In most profession, since, Cheating is universally wrong.

Does this trophies below mean anything if you're Lance or his fans? Yes or no?

PLS ANSWER THE QUESTION ON A YES OR NO, and you can follow it up with why.

Floyd cheated, my opinion.

I believe Floyd cheated. I feel he got favorable treatment

[Zaroku]

Not the answer to the question I wanted you to answer Zaroku.

3rd time is a charm.

So again Zaroku..

Since we all know, Cheating doesnt score points buddy. Cheaters are punished or gets locked up. In any profession. Cheating is universally wrong.

Does this trophies below mean anything? Yes or no?

PLS ANSWER THE QUESTION ON A YES OR NO, and you can follow it up with why.

Yes, they mean something, what they mean to him, vs what they mean to me are different topics. A coked up Pryor beat my man argeullo. All the stuff we go back and forth about is meaningless. Floyd beat manny in an interesting fight. Manny and Floyd both threw punches cautiously. Both were cautious of what would come back.

Manny lost. Marked a form saying he wasn't injured, then humiliated himself with an injury.

But, in the ring, Floyd beat PAC. I don't care what Spain thought, because I saw manny lose.

For you PAC can do no wrong. For me, very different. Floyd beat his woman and should have been locked up sooner. He needed to be corrected. If that was my sister he beat, no amount of body guards could save him.

For me, the fix is in, they all cheat, all the top guys.

I don't buy the ex post facto TUE, nor do I buy the shoulder injury.
Not saying he didn't have a shoulder injury, but he failed to disclose it on the form, a form he filled out many, many times. Then asks for a shot of T?

[Bjl12]

Floyd UD 12 pretty easy like 10-2 or 9-3.

KTFO6 was far more entertaining. Neck and neck until the KO

/thread

[Spoon23]

Yes, they mean something, what they mean to him, vs what they mean to me are different topics. A coked up Pryor beat my man argeullo. All the stuff we go back and forth about is meaningless. Floyd beat manny in an interesting fight. Manny and Floyd both threw punches cautiously. Both were cautious of what would come back.

Manny lost. Marked a form saying he wasn't injured, then humiliated himself with an injury.

But, in the ring, Floyd beat PAC. I don't care what Spain thought, because I saw manny lose.

For you PAC can do no wrong. For me, very different. Floyd beat his woman and should have been locked up sooner. He needed to be corrected. If that was my sister he beat, no amount of body guards could save him.

For me, the fix is in, they all cheat, all the top guys.

I don't buy the ex post facto TUE, nor do I buy the shoulder injury.
Not saying he didn't have a shoulder injury, but he failed to disclose it on the form, a form he filled out many, many times. Then asks for a shot of T?

THEREFORE, CHEATING IS FINE IN ZAROKU'S WORLD.

WINNING BY CHEATING IS THE SAME IN ZAROKU' WORLD AS LONG AS YOU WIN.

I REST MY CASE!

NOTHING FURTHER YOUR HONOR.

Floyd cheated, my opinion.

I believe Floyd cheated. I feel he got favorable treatment

[Zaroku]

THEREFORE, CHEATING IS FINE IN ZAROKU'S WORLD.

I REST MY CASE!

NOTHING FURTHER YOUR HONOR.

The fix is in.

[Spoon23]

The fix is in.

Enjoy Lance Achievements buddy. Since in your book he deserves his awards, but to most they are empty wins, but to each his own I guess.

I'll let you admire it some more. Since in your book cheating or not it's a mark of a great athlete.

Enjoy!

Floyd cheated, my opinion.

I believe Floyd cheated. I feel he got favorable treatment

[Zaroku]

Enjoy Lance Achievements buddy. Since in your book he deserves his awards, but to most they are empty wins, but to each his own I guess.

I'll let you admire it some more. Since in your book cheating or not it's a mark of a great athlete.

Enjoy!

You blindly believe PAC is the only clean boxer. Naive to say the least. Your hero worship of manny blinds you.