Comments Thread For: Andre Ward Doesn't Know Why He Doesn't Get Credit He Deserves

[GGG Gloveking]

Ward was never hated until cowardly Golovkin refused to fight him.

Bullshiz! Ward was stripped of a title and was taken off the p4p list. Neither of these had anything to do with Golovkin. I cant believe you are seriously trying to suggest that Ward's inactivity and the consequences thereof have anything to do with GGG. Do you really think GGG has that much power and clout?

[CaneloMaidana]

1. You've never been in an entertaining fight your entire career

2. You've never fought an A-level fighter or anyone near the top of the sport with speed and power, or even just speed

3. You hold, measure with your jab, and duck below the waist to dodge punches, all of which are illegal according to official boxing rules

4. You ducked Lucian Bute and never fought Andre Dirrell when he was good either, preferring to only fight slow European fighters who were tailor made for your style

5. You always make demands of your opponents, such as them fighting in Oakland, but never travel or do those things yourself, and you're generally known as a diva in negotiations, exemplified by you suing the promoter who promoted you to stardom multiple times in an effort to violate a legitimate contract. Even to this day that diva attitude showed up. For example, even though Kovalev-Ward was agreed to for Vegas six months ago, you still tried to change terms at the last minute to have the fight in California, according to reports

Now you know. I don't know why it was necessary for me to explain, since these criticisms are obvious to anyone who isn't biased.

Just say he's Black you coward.

[CaneloMaidana]

Bullshiz! Ward was stripped of a title and was taken off the p4p list. Neither of these had anything to do with Golovkin. I cant believe you are seriously trying to suggest that Ward's inactivity and the consequences thereof have anything to do with GGG. Do you really think GGG has that much power and clout?

His skin color gives him that power. We both know you wouldn't be named after him if he wasn't White.

People never made anti Golovkin posts until the wimp Golovkin ran away. You're hurt Golovkin ducked.

[GGG Gloveking]

His skin color gives him that power. We both know you wouldn't be named after him if he wasn't White.

People never made anti Golovkin posts until the wimp Golovkin ran away. You're hurt Golovkin ducked.

Dude, I know damn good and well you're not talking about being named after a 'white' fighter. You dont get any whiter that Canelo. Ghost white skin and red FN hair...really?!

[CaneloMaidana]

Dude, I know damn good and well you're not talking about being named after a 'white' fighter. You dont get any whiter that Canelo. Ghost white skin and red FN hair...really?!

I'm black and my favorite fighters when I made this account were Maidana, Canelo, Joesito Lopez, Devon Alexander and Leo Santa Cruz.

I don't care what race a fighter is but to say Golovkin hasn't been babied because of racism would be a lie.

Golovkin is scared of tough fight and hides behind racism to avoid them.

[Cobra_]

It's because boxing isn't popular anymore in America. Floyd got popular when boxing was still kind of big there.

If Ward was English he would have been getting more than Joshua type paydays per fight, PPV star, a national hero for being P4P #1/Olympic gold, and promoted more than any other fighter. That's the honest truth.

I think a KO-valev win will boost his notoriety for sure.

[The Comic DON]

Andre should save the drama for his baby mama. Welcome to the world of boxing where a majority of boxers didn't get universal respect until they damn near either died in the ring or damn near retired.

It's not like Ali turned pro and was automatically this beloved star by everyone. It's not like Duran was the fighter everyone loved as soon as he stepped foot into the ring. Remember after the 2nd Leonard a lot of people in his country called him a ****** and vandalized his home.

[emhoffk]

Huh?

1. You've never been in an entertaining fight your entire career

2. You've never fought an A-level fighter or anyone near the top of the sport with speed and power, or even just speed

3. You hold, measure with your jab, and duck below the waist to dodge punches, all of which are illegal according to official boxing rules

4. You ducked Lucian Bute and never fought Andre Dirrell when he was good either, preferring to only fight slow European fighters who were tailor made for your style

5. You always make demands of your opponents, such as them fighting in Oakland, but never travel or do those things yourself, and you're generally known as a diva in negotiations, exemplified by you suing the promoter who promoted you to stardom multiple times in an effort to violate a legitimate contract. Even to this day that diva attitude showed up. For example, even though Kovalev-Ward was agreed to for Vegas six months ago, you still tried to change terms at the last minute to have the fight in California, according to reports

Now you know. I don't know why it was necessary for me to explain, since these criticisms are obvious to anyone who isn't biased.

1) I was definitely entertained by his fights with Miranda, Kessler, Froch and Dawson. He's a boxer, not a puncher, but the fact that he bulled Miranda was entertaining. The Kessler and Froch fights were solid entertaining bouts. Watching him take apart Dawson was definitely entertaining and surprising.
2) & 4) Name a guy at 168 or 175 with speed and power who he ducked? Bute??! A. Dirrell??!! Really??! Bute had every chance to be in the Super Six and he begged out of it. Ward took some time off after the Super Six to heal his broken left hand and get a much deserved rest. He then came back to fight the reigning lineal Light Heavyweight Champ in Chad Dawson. Who by the way was definitely A-level, near the top of the sport and had a much better resume than Bute at the time. Dirrell, as you know, clearly ducked Ward in the Super Six. I'll give Dirrell the benefit of the doubt that his injuries were legit, but there were rumors that he didn't want to fight Ward at that time because they were friends and the fight wasn't big enough then.
3) I'm going to ignore this one, as it's not legit. Plenty of fighters do this on nearly every boxing card around the world.
5) You make several points in here. I'm not sure I agree with them all but I think making demands in negotiations and fighting with your promoter are kind of par for the course for elite level fighters. Floyd Mayweather, Oscar De La Hoya, Roy Jones, Mike Tyson, Larry Holmes, Sugar Ray Leonard were all tough negotiators and involved in disputes with promoters at one time or another. Sometimes as fans, the business end of it gets tiresome - so I can't hate you for having grievance with that.

[GGG Gloveking]

I'm black and my favorite fighters when I made this account were Maidana, Canelo, Joesito Lopez, Devon Alexander and Leo Santa Cruz.

I don't care what race a fighter is but to say Golovkin hasn't been babied because of racism would be a lie.

Golovkin is scared of tough fight and hides behind racism to avoid them.

The bottom line is that you're using racism as a crutch. Golovkin made your favorite fighter look like a complete b itch and your mission, that you embark on every day, is to try to make Golovkin look bad. You hide behind racism like 'white America' could really give2 shizz about some half-Soviet, half-Korean guy from a third world country.

I like Golovkin because he possesses tremendous power and KO ability. The same reason I liked Tyson growing up. The same reason I liked Lennox Lewis. The same reason I liked George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Marvin Hagler. The same reason I like Sergey Kovalev, Roman Gonzalez, Terrence Crawford.

GTFOH with that BS racism crap. It just dont fly

[JimmyD729]

Andre should save the drama for his baby mama. Welcome to the world of boxing where a majority of boxers didn't get universal respect until they damn near either died in the ring or damn near retired.

It's not like Ali turned pro and was automatically this beloved star by everyone. It's not like Duran was the fighter everyone loved as soon as he stepped foot into the ring. Remember after the 2nd Leonard a lot of people in his country called him a ****** and vandalized his home.

Great point