Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

[Dosumpthin]

A couple of extra things left out, floyd tried to write into the contract that if a TUE was issued it didn't have to be declared to anybody

This is inherently false information.

Floyd didn't attempt to "write into contract" any specific protocols as you and Thomas Hauser suggested . USADA, a WADA signatory, adheres to the I.S.T.U.E. (international standard for theraputic use exemption) for proceedures and policies.

This practice was in place long before Floyd began using USADA.

and that an IV is only allowed in an emergency and only should be undertaken in a hospital

AGAIN FALSE

1. IV can be used to treat medical conditions that may not be deemed an emergency - so I am assuming you mean obtain a RETRO TUE in emergency situations - which AGAIN you are wrong and misinformed.

RETRO TUE may be considered if it's an

A) acute emergency or
B) there was not enough time to approve the tue prior to a sample or
C) the ADO isn't accepting normal tue applications for whatever reason or
D) wada and the ADO believes it is FAIR


2. It should be performed in a medical setting. Having it done in a hospital is not a requirement according to WADA.

, also that usada had no authority to issue a TUE, only the Nevada commission had that authority

That is true. If a drug is banned by NSAC the athlete would need to have NSAC accept the USADA TUE OR the athelete would need to apply for a TUE through NSAC.

However NSAC does not ban IV use. Therefore you can not apply for a TUE (exemption) for something that is not banned.





Hope this helps.

[travestyny]

A couple of extra things left out, floyd tried to write into the contract that if a TUE was issued it didn't have to be declared to anybody and that an IV is only allowed in an emergency and only should be undertaken in a hospital, also that usada had no authority to issue a TUE, only the Nevada commission had that authority

Everything you said is wrong.

1. All of the information about how TUEs would be handled came from WADA's ISTUE. Pacquiao's team reviewed it and wanted to add some things to it. They did, and then the contract was sent to Floyd's team, and he approved what Pac's team added. Please stop spreading lies. Floyd's team didn't add anything to the contract, nor did they try to.

2. The manner in which Floyd took the IV was not illegal in any way because the TUE was issued. The TUE was approved by an independent council of doctors that weren't even given Floyd's name on the application. The Application was also sent to WADA along with the reasons it was approved.

3. NSAC has no reason to issue a TUE because IV use is not prohibited according to their rules. USADA issued it so that they can uphold their requirement to stay in line with the WADA protocol.


Come on, man. Every single thing you wrote was untrue.

[travestyny]

This is inherently false information.

Floyd didn't attempt to "write into contract" any specific protocols as you and Thomas Hauser suggested . USADA, a WADA signatory, adheres to the I.S.T.U.E. (international standard for theraputic use exemption) for proceedures and policies.

This practice was in place long before Floyd began using USADA.






AGAIN FALSE

1. IV can be used to treat medical conditions that may not be deemed an emergency - so I am assuming you mean obtain a RETRO TUE in emergency situations - which AGAIN you are wrong and misinformed.

RETRO TUE may be considered if it's an

A) acute emergency or
B) there was not enough time to approve the tue prior to a sample or
C) the ADO isn't accepting normal tue applications for whatever reason or
D) wada and the ADO believes it is FAIR


2. It should be performed in a medical setting. Having it done in a hospital is not a requirement according to WADA.



That is true. If a drug is banned by NSAC the athlete would need to have NSAC accept the USADA TUE OR the athelete would need to apply for a TUE through NSAC.

However NSAC does not ban IV use. Therefore you can not apply for a TUE (exemption) for something that is not banned.





Hope this helps.

Damn. They really gonna think you're my alt now. LMAO! Keep spreading that truth!

[Dosumpthin]

Everything you said is wrong.

1. All of the information about how TUEs would be handled came from WADA's ISTUE. Pacquiao's team reviewed it and wanted to add some things to it. They did, and then the contract was sent to Floyd's team, and he approved what Pac's team added. Please stop spreading lies. Floyd's team didn't add anything to the contract, nor did they try to.

2. The manner in which Floyd took the IV was not illegal in any way because the TUE was issued. The TUE was approved by an independent council of doctors that weren't even given Floyd's name on the application. The Application was also sent to WADA along with the reasons it was approved.

3. NSAC has no reason to issue a TUE because IV use is not prohibited according to their rules. USADA issued it so that they can uphold their requirement to stay in line with the WADA protocol.


Come on, man. Every single thing you wrote was untrue.

Lol. We both schooled that poor misguided soul.


Spoon should be here shortly. Lmao.

[Slick_Rick]

The problem is, if he claims to be in a normal state before the fight, which Pacquaio and his doctor, and the NSAC doctors all said about him, then toradol would clearly put him in an abnormal state, which would be CHEATING.

So why did his doctor have to be stopped when he attempted to shoot him up with toradol?

sigh.....

USADA approved it but NSAC stopped him. Go read up on it.

[Dosumpthin]

sigh.....

USADA approved it but NSAC stopped him. Go read up on it.

USADA "approved it".

Lol. Who told you that? ARUM or HAUSER?

[travestyny]

sigh.....

USADA approved it but NSAC stopped him. Go read up on it.

You're not understanding the difference.

It is not prohibited according to WADA. That does not mean that it should be allowed by NSAC to use anytime you want in a boxing match.

The rule is that a boxer should go into a fight in a normal state. If the boxer is at a normal state, then using toradol would place the boxer in an abnormal state.

Do you know the reasons that NSAC denied it?
1. No proof of injury.
2. Would put the boxer in an abnormal state
3. Could do more harm than good to the boxer.

The IV issue was a WADA issue.
Pac's toradol issue was a NSAC issue.

I suggest you go read up on toradol and find out what it does, it's legitimate uses, and why many people consider it to be a PED.

[Kigali]

You're not understanding the difference.

It is not prohibited according to WADA. That does not mean that it should be allowed by NSAC to use anytime you want in a boxing match.

The rule is that a boxer should go into a fight in a normal state. If the boxer is at a normal state, then using toradol would place the boxer in an abnormal state.

Do you know the reasons that NSAC denied it?
1. No proof of injury.
2. Would put the boxer in an abnormal state
3. Could do more harm than good to the boxer.

The IV issue was a WADA issue.
Pac's toradol issue was a NSAC issue.

I suggest you go read up on toradol and find out what it does, it's legitimate uses, and why many people consider it to be a PED.

Keep on stomping them with knowledge and facts.

[Boxfan7819]

You know how ****** you sound ? I make it in simple term for a simple mind one guy is cheating we get that ? One guy is hurt rather than call the fight off he wants to numb the pain to continue to fight did we understand that ****** dweller ?

Are you not from America it seems my English just went over your head.

I completely agree with you... my post was in reference to Loaded Wraps who is so biased towards Mayweather that he has lost common sense to compare steroids to painkillers.

And I'm from the Bay Area of California which is one of the most expensive places to live in America so next time don't assume I'm from the ****** because now you look ******.

[LoadedWraps]

The problem is, if he claims to be in a normal state before the fight, which Pacquaio and his doctor, and the NSAC doctors all said about him, then toradol would clearly put him in an abnormal state, which would be CHEATING.

So why did his doctor have to be stopped when he attempted to shoot him up with toradol?