Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

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However, the NAC later revealed to MMAJunkie.com that Carbon Isotope Ratio testing was performed on each of Jones’ drug tests, including a pair of post-fight samples, and the results came back clean. Although the CIR tests would be able to detect if Jones had been using exogenous testosterone, Conte remains skeptical not only of the champion’s low overall levels, but of the great variance in Jones’ T/E ratios as well.

“If they see a deviation in the T/E ratio of greater than 30 percent, there is something up. That’s a red flag,” Conte explained. “If you look at Daniel [Cormier’s] two ratios, they were .42 and .47; that’s about an eight percent deviation. If you look at the numbers for Jon Jones, his was basically an 80 percent deviation. His is su****ious and Daniel Cormier’s is not. It’s not just that he’s got very low [testosterone] levels, much lower than Daniel. Daniel’s are normal, his are extremely low.”
Read more at http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Vic...WhkkRb0hJtf.99, still conte wanted to go the extra yards, something usada are not willing to do, so ****head it all comes down to vada can catch cheats but usada can't, Armstrong made them look like fools for years, floyds debacle made them look like fools, smart teams can cheat and bypass protocols and anyone who thinks floyds clean are kidding themselves, that's you ****head

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However, the NAC later revealed to MMAJunkie.com that Carbon Isotope Ratio testing was performed on each of Jones’ drug tests, including a pair of post-fight samples, and the results came back clean. Although the CIR tests would be able to detect if Jones had been using exogenous testosterone, Conte remains skeptical not only of the champion’s low overall levels, but of the great variance in Jones’ T/E ratios as well.

“If they see a deviation in the T/E ratio of greater than 30 percent, there is something up. That’s a red flag,” Conte explained. “If you look at Daniel [Cormier’s] two ratios, they were .42 and .47; that’s about an eight percent deviation. If you look at the numbers for Jon Jones, his was basically an 80 percent deviation. His is su****ious and Daniel Cormier’s is not. It’s not just that he’s got very low [testosterone] levels, much lower than Daniel. Daniel’s are normal, his are extremely low.”
Read more at http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Vic...WhkkRb0hJtf.99, still conte wanted to go the extra yards, something usada are not willing to do, so ****head it all comes down to vada can catch cheats but usada can't, Armstrong made them look like fools for years, floyds debacle made them look like fools, smart teams can cheat and bypass protocols and anyone who thinks floyds clean are kidding themselves, that's you ****head

Did you really just write all of that to embarrass yourself again?

1. Conte was singing the praises of CIR testing. Then it was done so he had nothing to fall back on, just like you.

2. VADA uses the same WADA approved labs as USADA, ******.

Now shut the **** up you little bltch. Unless you really want me to keep kicking your corpse around this forum.

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Damn that was brutal. Travesty got squashed like ****roach on that one.

TravestyNY has no integrity left. Smh

That was brutal.

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Did you really just write all of that to embarrass yourself again?

1. Conte was singing the praises of CIR testing. Then it was done so he had nothing to fall back on, just like you.

2. VADA uses the same WADA approved labs as USADA, ******.

Now shut the **** up you little bltch. Unless you really want me to keep kicking your corpse around this forum.

You make ****** people look like brain surgeons ****head, SINGING THE PRAISES OF CIR TESTING WHERE NOBJOCKEYhe was saying that athletes and teams are always finding new ways to beat the tests so you can't sit idle like usada because floyd is turning into the new lance Armstrong, moronic fanboys like yourself haven't got a brain big enough to see the nose on their face let alone how easily they're stooged by floyd, really how easily did I suck you in ****head

[travestyny]

SINGING THE PRAISES OF CIR TESTING WHERE NOBJOCKEYhe was saying that athletes and teams are always finding new ways to beat the tests so you can't sit idle like usada because floyd is turning into the new lance Armstrong, moronic fanboys like yourself haven't got a brain big enough to see the nose on their face let alone how easily they're stooged by floyd, really how easily did I suck you in ****head

AHAHAHAHAHAHA...WHERE WAS CONTE SINGING THE PRAISES OF CIR TESTING, YOU ASK???? READY TO GET SCHOOLED AGAIN????

•IMO. T/E ratio results 4 UFC Jon Jones are SU****IOUS. 3 urine samples given. T & E levels & T/E ratios all suppressed. CIR tests needed!

•IMO. CIR testing of all 3 UFC Jon Jones urine samples needed. Reduced T & E levels + T/E ratios could indicate exogenous testosterone use

•Use of exogenous testosterone suppresses testosterone & epitestosterone levels in urine. IMO. CIR testing NEEDED 4 UFC Jon Jones samples

•Does Nevada comm/ UFC have the balls to do CIR testing on all 3 urine samples collected from Jon Jones? IMO. All 3 results are SU****IOUS

•Nevada comm claims 2 follow WADA code. When su****ious T/E results are found, their protocol is 2 use CIR tests. Will Nevada & UFC do CIR?

•If Nevada follows WADA code then UFC Jones' samples are saved. IMO. His T/E results are su****ious. Easy 2 retest w/ CIR & reveal the truth

•Do UFC fans deserve 2 know the truth about possible use of testosterone by Jon Jones? IMO. retesting w/ CIR could provide TRUTH either way

•I believe Nevada comm & UFC have opportunity 2 show their integrity 2 MMA fans by retesting Jones' samples w/ CIR. Will they? DanaWhite

•Dana may prove his case w/ CIR test. DO IT

•IMO. DanaWhite may help provide the TRUTH about UFC Jon Jones use of testosterone or not by a retest of his samples with CIR. DO IT DANA!

•Do DanaWhite UFC & Nevada want 2 know the truth about Jon Jones's su****ious T/E tests? We'll see. A retest w/ CIR may provide the TRUTH

•Will Nevada UFC & danawhite walk the talk? Do they really follow WADA code? Will they follow up on Jones su****ious T/E tests w/ CIR test?

•Wonder if DanaWhite has a reasonable explanation 4 the 3 highly suspcious T/E ratio results 4 Jon Jones. Hope UFC demands the CIR TRUTH

•Does “administrative oversight” explain how Nevada comm failed 2 do appropriate follow-up tests of Jon Jones's urine w/ CIR testing? UFC

•Testosterone use out of competition is against WADA rules. IMO UFC Jon Jones's 3 T/E ratio tests are su****ious. CIR follow up tests=TRUTH

•64K question now is will the Nevada comm have the balls 2 do what's right & retest UFC Jones' samples w/ CIR & reveal the truth? DanaWhite

STAY DOWN, BlTCH. NO ONE WANTS TO SEE YOU GET HURT ANYMORE.

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The peak effects last 2-3 hours.

Pacquiao was already in the locker room @ 6:08pm.


“The first I heard of this was at 6.08 when he (Pacquiao) arrived in the locker room,” commission chairman Francisco Aguilar told reporters during the post-fight news conferences



What time did he leave the hotel - maybe 5pm if not earlier? If they took the shot @ the hotel, then the peak effect would be while manny was "waiting"to enter the ring.

So when Michael Koncz claims they are not cheating because cheating they could've done it earlier at the hotel - is not logical.

Besides, I thought Dr ellatrache prescribed the shot to be taken 1 hour before the fight?

Dr ellatrache, the doctor who performed the surgery after the fight, is the same doctor in the dressing room attempting to inject manny with painkiller ****tail mixed with toradol.







False. Even in Thomas Hauser article "the big lie" he admits that the injury was not disclosed to USADA.

"Because the drugs are not banned, there was no need for a the****utic use exemption. Nor did USADA need to know why the drugs were being administered or have any legal obligation to report their use to the Nevada State Athletic Commission."


http://www.boxingscene.com/-big-lie--91204

Sorry. Asking if a drug is banned is not an approval. There is a TUE process for approvals.

Now you have to ask yourself - why is bob arum intentionally lying about receiving an "approval"?

Lied about notifying NSAC in writing.
Lied about receiving a TUE from USADA.






Dr neal ellatrache - world renown surgeon of the stars and celbrities. Boast that he performs 500 surgeries a year. Team doctor for The la rams nfl and la dodgers mbl, two sports known for widespread toradol abuse.





On the contrary, they essentially planned everything right. They attempted to cheat and had the perfect alibi if ever caught. They even had an alibi for the alibi.

smh. you're making my point with the usada info, ITS NOT BANNED. furthermore, it peaks within 2-3 hours, lasts for 8-12...why ignore this part? It's not a one minute peak where it then drops off to virtually ineffective for the next 6 hours...is that what you're assuming? he could've taken it in his hotel room, he could've taken in the car on the way to the arena for all I care. The problem with your argument is that you think there's only one way they could've done this so in failing to do it this way, they must be trying to cheat....if the effects of a drug last so long, why try to cheat in front of cameras? All the while the drug isn't tested for.

[travestyny]

If deluding yourself into a false sense of victory helps you cope with the reality of failure, then by all means, have at it.

Failure you say? Funny, since you're the only one who has failed.

Failure #1: You saying the T/E ratios were released to the public before the test results (LMAO). You bodied yourself on this one!

The drug test results containing Jon Jones' low T:E ratios were released on Dec. 17. His positive test result for ******* wasn't made public until Jan. 8th.

To sum it all up, the drug test results containing Jon Jones' low T:E ratios were completed during the month of December, but it wasn't made public until AFTER UFC 182 which took place early January.

LMAO. FAIL!!!!!

Failure #2: You stated that Conte didn't know about Jones' positive ******* result at the time of his interview.

Conte told Yahoo Sports in multiple interviews on Wednesday (January 7th) and Thursday (January 8th) that Jones' T/E ratios convinced him that something had suppressed Jones' natural testosterone production.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nevada-...013131428.html

hahahahahaha. FAIL!!!!

Failure #3: You claimed that CIR testing should have revealed Jones' ******* use.

More importantly, the CIR testing performed on Jon Jones' samples - despite coming back clean - failed to link his low T:E ratios to ******* use, which was later discovered to be the case.

LMAOOOOO. FAILLLL! Shows you don't know shlt.

Failure #4: You tried to claim that T/E ratios of .8 and .69 are abnormal.

Most men have a ratio of T to E of 1:1, which means normal men have equal amounts of T and E in their blood. There is some normal ethnic and time of day variation in the normal T/E ratio (as low as 0.7:1 and as high as 1.3:1).
http://mmajunkie.com/2012/04/medical...r-testosterone

and a specialist saying that much lower levels aren't abnormal:

I am sorry, but such T/E values are not at all abnormal,” said Dr. Ayotte when discussing T/E levels of .29, .35, and .19

FAIL!


We both know who the failure is. I suggest you just let it go now.

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Failure you say? Funny, since you're the only one who has failed.

We both know who the failure is. I suggest you just let it go now.

You failed the moment you attempted to justify Floyd's low T:E ratios by drawing similarities between Jon Jones' low T:E ratios; which were later discovered to be a direct result of ******* use. Essentially hinting at the possibility that Floyd might have also been using. This is the textual equivalent of shooting oneself in the foot, or in other words — a "fail".

[Shape up]

Did you really just write all of that to embarrass yourself again?

1. Conte was singing the praises of CIR testing. Then it was done so he had nothing to fall back on, just like you.

2. VADA uses the same WADA approved labs as USADA, ******.

Now shut the **** up you little bltch. Unless you really want me to keep kicking your corpse around this forum.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA...WHERE WAS CONTE SINGING THE PRAISES OF CIR TESTING, YOU ASK???? READY TO GET SCHOOLED AGAIN????

•IMO. T/E ratio results 4 UFC Jon Jones are SU****IOUS. 3 urine samples given. T & E levels & T/E ratios all suppressed. CIR tests needed!

•IMO. CIR testing of all 3 UFC Jon Jones urine samples needed. Reduced T & E levels + T/E ratios could indicate exogenous testosterone use

•Use of exogenous testosterone suppresses testosterone & epitestosterone levels in urine. IMO. CIR testing NEEDED 4 UFC Jon Jones samples

•Does Nevada comm/ UFC have the balls to do CIR testing on all 3 urine samples collected from Jon Jones? IMO. All 3 results are SU****IOUS

•Nevada comm claims 2 follow WADA code. When su****ious T/E results are found, their protocol is 2 use CIR tests. Will Nevada & UFC do CIR?

•If Nevada follows WADA code then UFC Jones' samples are saved. IMO. His T/E results are su****ious. Easy 2 retest w/ CIR & reveal the truth

•Do UFC fans deserve 2 know the truth about possible use of testosterone by Jon Jones? IMO. retesting w/ CIR could provide TRUTH either way

•I believe Nevada comm & UFC have opportunity 2 show their integrity 2 MMA fans by retesting Jones' samples w/ CIR. Will they? DanaWhite

•Dana may prove his case w/ CIR test. DO IT

•IMO. DanaWhite may help provide the TRUTH about UFC Jon Jones use of testosterone or not by a retest of his samples with CIR. DO IT DANA!

•Do DanaWhite UFC & Nevada want 2 know the truth about Jon Jones's su****ious T/E tests? We'll see. A retest w/ CIR may provide the TRUTH

•Will Nevada UFC & danawhite walk the talk? Do they really follow WADA code? Will they follow up on Jones su****ious T/E tests w/ CIR test?

•Wonder if DanaWhite has a reasonable explanation 4 the 3 highly suspcious T/E ratio results 4 Jon Jones. Hope UFC demands the CIR TRUTH

•Does “administrative oversight” explain how Nevada comm failed 2 do appropriate follow-up tests of Jon Jones's urine w/ CIR testing? UFC

•Testosterone use out of competition is against WADA rules. IMO UFC Jon Jones's 3 T/E ratio tests are su****ious. CIR follow up tests=TRUTH

•64K question now is will the Nevada comm have the balls 2 do what's right & retest UFC Jones' samples w/ CIR & reveal the truth? DanaWhite

STAY DOWN, BlTCH. NO ONE WANTS TO SEE YOU GET HURT ANYMORE.

Your scraping the bottom of the barrel ****head, he mentions on different occasions CIR testing so in your feeble little mind he's singing its praises, I mention the word ****HEAD on many occasions referring to you, am I singing your praises,we all know the answer to that, hell no, applying you own thought to a subject doesn't make it fact numbskull, if he thought CIR testing was so good how come he says it's still very su****ious

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