He only weighed 162 a week before the fight. It's obvious he makes 160 with ease and has no business fighting above that weight. Middleweight has always been the glamour division, not 168 or 175. If he stays at 160 and continues to dominate that weight until he retires that's great. It was good enough for Hagler, Monzon and Zale. Hopkins stayed at middleweight until he was 41 years old. The only reason GGG haters want him to move up to a higher weight is they hope a naturally bigger man can beat GGG because no boxer in the world his same weight can beat him.
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If his body allows, Triple GGG should stay at 160 indefinitely, till' retirement
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Originally posted by ComicDon View PostHe should do what Calzaghe did and move up right before retirement. Wait until there is a definitive 168 champion and challenge them for the belt. And finally, cash out with a big money fight and say fuq the haters.
Retiring with one loss to the Special One Kell Brook ain't too shabby.
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostHe only weighed 162 a week before the fight. It's obvious he makes 160 with ease and has no business fighting above that weight. Middleweight has always been the glamour division, not 168 or 175. If he stays at 160 and continues to dominate that weight until he retires that's great. It was good enough for Hagler, Monzon and Zale. Hopkins stayed at middleweight until he was 41 years old. The only reason GGG haters want him to move up to a higher weight is they hope a naturally bigger man can beat GGG because no boxer in the world his same weight can beat him.
All those fighters who you listed had better competition in their divisions at those times that's why they didn't move not because it was "middleweight".
Cut out the bull**** please... You cherry picked some middleweights who didn't move up but you just simply skipped the fact that any of those 4 has at least one or two significant wins on their resume whereas Golovkin lacks that.
the point is not the name of the weight class but the quality of it and the names he beat and his reputation compared to that. The two are not in accordance with each other.
You can't put someone whose best win is Murray on the same page as Hopkins, Monzon or Hagler. Period.
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostHe only weighed 162 a week before the fight. It's obvious he makes 160 with ease and has no business fighting above that weight. Middleweight has always been the glamour division, not 168 or 175. If he stays at 160 and continues to dominate that weight until he retires that's great. It was good enough for Hagler, Monzon and Zale. Hopkins stayed at middleweight until he was 41 years old. The only reason GGG haters want him to move up to a higher weight is they hope a naturally bigger man can beat GGG because no boxer in the world his same weight can beat him.
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Originally posted by HEND View Postnice try to pretend that formal BS like being a "glamour division" matter more than the quality of the fighters in the weight class.
All those fighters who you listed had better competition in their divisions at those times that's why they didn't move not because it was "middleweight".
Cut out the bull**** please... You cherry picked some middleweights who didn't move up but you just simply skipped the fact that any of those 4 has at least one or two significant wins on their resume whereas Golovkin lacks that.
the point is not the name of the weight class but the quality of it and the names he beat and his reputation compared to that. The two are not in accordance with each other.
You can't put someone whose best win is Murray on the same page as Hopkins, Monzon or Hagler. Period.
You're comparing a finished body of work of a retired fighter VS a fighter who still has many fights left in him at 35-0.
Secondly, quality of opposition is subjective. All of Hagler's opponents might be considered better in hindsight, now that it's been over 30 years. In foresight a victory over Thomas Hearns or Duran was no better than a hypothetical victory over Miguel Cotto, Canelo, Brooks or Floyd Mayweather for GGG. All smaller great fighters who tried to grab the Middleweight division.
Hagler hung around for damn 4 years after prospects of a Hagler-Leonard fight and it still came through as he didn't move up and probably didn't outgrow his division (otherwise his performance would have suffered).
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As it stands, GGG is about to fight a 35-0 fighter who is a world Champion at a lower division, which may be followed up by a fight Vs a natural Middleweight top contender in Eubank Jr or a Unification fight against a fellow Title holder in Sanders. Nothing wrong with that.
He is having a stab at all-comers, the small, the big, the old and the young. Top 160 contenders, top smallerweight fighters etc,.
All you can point to is...but Andre Ward at 168 Doe!!
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You don't really care about boxing if you want GGG to stay at 160.
He should go actively after the fights he wants. I'm not excited at the idea of seeing him fight Jacobs, Saunders and Canelo for the next two years. The clock is ticking now and if he doesn't get a meaningful fight soon he's wasted talent.
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Originally posted by HEND View PostI can't call someone a HOF or ATG fghter whose best win is still Martin Murray at the age of 34... sorry
maybe if he can up his competition level in the next few years but not before it and he has less and less time
It's not his fault that he was born into a trash MW era but historical places are given by resumes and cold hard facts not about shoulda-woulda fantasy things...
Can you tell me a fighter who is remembered as an ATG or HOF member and his best win is on the level of Martin Murray? Cause I can't think of one right now...
Even Cuban Amateur fighters. Gamboa and Rigo only have a few prime years to play around with.
And you keep name dropping Martin Murray. Every fighter from the past has had a martin murray career win at some point. You just can't see it now because you're looking from the prism of the past. When it happened right there and then, someone in that time viewed that opponent the same way you view Murray.
And GGG isn't even mentioning retirement yet, so what's the point? He may even go on to fight as long as Hopkins with success which could mean at least 10 meaningful wins under his belt.
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