Comments Thread For: Hasanboy Dusmatov Denies Promotional Deal, Eyes Olympics

[dazzo16]

These elite amateurs aint fighting for free. They're getting paid already
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Many of these Uzbek, and Kazakh fighters are some dumb mother****ers for staying in amateurs so long fighting for free while the fighters who people will really remember in the future are pro fighters and also they are the ones who can earn money with putting their lives in danger.

only if I would know wtf is their problem with professonal boxing and why they want to tick with lame ass amateur boxing until their 30s or so...
Absolutely no point in it, they should be happy that the Soviet Union is over nd now they are free as a bird and they can go to get great among pros

[HEND]

If staying on the national team in one of those countries was basically the equivalent of having a stipend of $40k per year, plus health benefits and housing assistance, the decision to go pro isn't as cut/dry as you'd like to think.

There are a lot of pro fighters who, for fighting a full year, don't make anywhere near $40k.

The state pays them..they get an apartment and a stipend to live on..

Some do pretty good considering.

These elite amateurs aint fighting for free. They're getting paid already
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I didn't know these, thanks.

But still...
They can earn that money among the pros too if their countries are so supportive, except if they are only supportive with amateur boxing.

and also, it's still true that if they want to become really great ad remarkable boxers they should go pro because those champions are what people remember to not amateurs. Look at Lomachenko... Most successful amateur of all time but still turned pro, guess he didn't only need the state paychecks but wanted to take it to the next level, both money wise and legacy wise

[ggg_kz]

I didn't know these, thanks.

But still...
They can earn that money among the pros too if their countries are so supportive, except if they are only supportive with amateur boxing.

and also, it's still true that if they want to become really great ad remarkable boxers they should go pro because those champions are what people remember to not amateurs. Look at Lomachenko... Most successful amateur of all time but still turned pro, guess he didn't only need the state paychecks but wanted to take it to the next level, both money wise and legacy wise

Loma, Usyk, Gvozdyk, Khytrov - the golden generation of Ukrainian boxing all turned pro after Ukraine's economy fell into a deep shit, a war with Russia and big immigration to other countries. In 2016 Olympics there are ZERO medals for the Ukrainian team that is no longer supported by their government.

As for Kazakhs and Uzbeks - they are heavily supported by their governments, get good bonuses and excellent training conditions.

[NEETzsche]

Many of these Uzbek, and Kazakh fighters are some dumb mother****ers for staying in amateurs so long fighting for free while the fighters who people will really remember in the future are pro fighters and also they are the ones who can earn money with putting their lives in danger.

only if I would know wtf is their problem with professonal boxing and why they want to tick with lame ass amateur boxing until their 30s or so...
Absolutely no point in it, they should be happy that the Soviet Union is over nd now they are free as a bird and they can go to get great among pros

1. as others have said, they are subsidised by their governments
2. their countries have little to no pro boxing infrastructure or market
3. western promoters aren't overly interested in boxers from obscure eastern countries
4. their whole culture is less individualistic and they tend to value national prestige more highly than their western counterparts

[messimania]

Many of these Uzbek, and Kazakh fighters are some dumb mother****ers for staying in amateurs so long fighting for free while the fighters who people will really remember in the future are pro fighters and also they are the ones who can earn money with putting their lives in danger.

only if I would know wtf is their problem with professonal boxing and why they want to tick with lame ass amateur boxing until their 30s or so...
Absolutely no point in it, they should be happy that the Soviet Union is over nd now they are free as a bird and they can go to get great among pros

If you think someone like Dusmatov is fighting for free you havenīt been following top sports the last 30 years or so. He is a national hero in his country now, probably a rich man and will be very well looked after.

How much would a top US promoter invest in a light flyweight from Uzbekistan?

[Scipio2009]

I didn't know these, thanks.

But still...
They can earn that money among the pros too if their countries are so supportive, except if they are only supportive with amateur boxing.

and also, it's still true that if they want to become really great ad remarkable boxers they should go pro because those champions are what people remember to not amateurs. Look at Lomachenko... Most successful amateur of all time but still turned pro, guess he didn't only need the state paychecks but wanted to take it to the next level, both money wise and legacy wise

There's not a country on the planet that pays to support professional fighters; as long as you're fighting for country, said country has every incentive to support their athletes to the best of their ability.

In the law of averages, very few fighters ever actually end up being "really great and remarkable". If the general line is $40k per year, it's pretty safe to say that over 90% of professional fighters don't earn $40k for a year of fights (to them and their family, after paying off whatever expenses/obligations that they have)