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  • El JACKAL
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    Thurman would beat Spence and shock you guys

    What people need to understand is that styles make fights. After the Spence-Bundu fight I see lots of people saying Spence would beat Thurman because he stopped Bundu quicker, which is ridiculous.

    Styles make fights and Thurman, contrary to his nickname, is actually mostly a very flashy out-boxer/mover who happens to have a huge punch. It's not his style to cut off the ring and break you down on the inside, he prefers to stay on the outside and ambush you when there's an opening.

    Spence on the other hand is a country-boy, a brutal inside fighter who will walk you down, cut the ring off, bully you and maul you up close. Given his style, of course he was going to stop Bundu, who is 41 and doesn't have the fastest feet.

    It's one thing to cut the ring off on Bundu and Algieri, but Thurman's movement and foot speed is on a different level to these guys. Thurman himself packs a hell of a punch, and Spence has been hit before by uppercuts and right hands. If Spence tries to go to Keith's body he leaves himself open to Thurman shots.

    So overall I still favor Thurman over Spence, I think Thurman could pull off a decision win but it would be hard, similar to the Porter fight. Spence would have trouble cornering Keith.
    Last edited by El JACKAL; 08-27-2016, 03:35 PM.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Troy Williams
    What people need to understand is that styles make fights. After the Spence-Bundu fight I see lots of people saying Spence would beat Thurman because he stopped Bundu quicker, which is ridiculous.

    Styles make fights and Thurman, contrary to his nickname, is actually mostly a very flashy out-boxer/mover who happens to have a huge punch. It's not his style to cut off the ring and break you down on the inside, he prefers to stay on the outside and ambush you when there's an opening.

    Spence on the other hand is a country-boy, a brutal inside fighter who will walk you down, cut the ring off, bully you and maul you up close. Given his style, of course he was going to stop Bundu, who is 41 and doesn't have the fastest feet.

    However, it's one thing to cut the ring off on Bundu and Algieri, but Thurman's movement and foot speed is on a different level to these guys. Thurman himself packs a hell of a punch, and Spence has been hit before by uppercuts an right hands.

    So overall I still favor Thurman over Spence, I think Thurman could pull off a decision win but it would be hard, similar to the Porter fight. Spence would have trouble cornering Keith.
    good post, they both beat bundu easily, just cause one knocked him out doesnt mean much more than winning 120-107 apart from in term of excitiment. i'd really struggle to pick a winner out of them two, if i had to put my house on it, at the moment i would probably go with one time, just cause hes more proven at world level.

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    • intoccabile
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      I personally don't think Thurman will like the kind of body attack Spence will bring to him.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Troy Williams
        What people need to understand is that styles make fights. After the Spence-Bundu fight I see lots of people saying Spence would beat Thurman because he stopped Bundu quicker, which is ridiculous.

        Styles make fights and Thurman, contrary to his nickname, is actually mostly a very flashy out-boxer/mover who happens to have a huge punch. It's not his style to cut off the ring and break you down on the inside, he prefers to stay on the outside and ambush you when there's an opening.

        Spence on the other hand is a country-boy, a brutal inside fighter who will walk you down, cut the ring off, bully you and maul you up close. Given his style, of course he was going to stop Bundu, who is 41 and doesn't have the fastest feet.

        It's one thing to cut the ring off on Bundu and Algieri, but Thurman's movement and foot speed is on a different level to these guys. Thurman himself packs a hell of a punch, and Spence has been hit before by uppercuts and right hands.

        So overall I still favor Thurman over Spence, I think Thurman could pull off a decision win but it would be hard, similar to the Porter fight. Spence would have trouble cornering Keith.
        First off, Spence has WAAAAAAYYY quicker feet than Porter and also WAAAAY more power and balance, so that comparison goes out the window.

        Secondly, Spence aint just a brawler, he actually boxed on the outside in his first 8-10 fights or so, hence the Mayweather comparisons, but his coach made him fight on the inside so he can get the knock outs and break opponents down quicker (coach's own words). So if neccessary, you can bet your ass Spence will outbox the **** out of Thurman just like Crawford did to Postol.

        Finally, you say Styles make fights right? Have you seen how weak Thurman is to the body? You saw how hurt he was by porter and collazo to the body when he turned his back and started running?

        Now have you seen how much Spence invests in the body? Have you realised yet that he is in the argument for best body puncher in the sport?

        You think weak body Thurman can take that work for twelve rounds?

        Aint gonna happen son.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
          First off, Spence has WAAAAAAYYY quicker feet than Porter and also WAAAAY more power and balance, so that comparison goes out the window.

          Secondly, Spence aint just a brawler, he actually boxed on the outside in his first 8-10 fights or so, hence the Mayweather comparisons, but his coach made him fight on the inside so he can get the knock outs and break opponents down quicker (coach's own words). So if neccessary, you can bet your ass Spence will outbox the **** out of Thurman just like Crawford did to Postol.

          Finally, you say Styles make fights right? Have you seen how weak Thurman is to the body? You saw how hurt he was by porter and collazo to the body when he turned his back and started running?

          Now have you seen how much Spence invests in the body? Have you realised yet that he is in the argument for best body puncher in the sport?

          You think weak body Thurman can take that work for twelve rounds?

          Aint gonna happen son.
          I think Spence beats Thurman but Porter is way faster than Spence on his feet. Porter's got faster feet than Thurman as well, I think that may be why Thurman didn't move as much against Porter as people expected. Porter closes the distance very quickly.

          Also Spence has to be a lot more careful when going to the body against Thurman, Thurman is going to be looking to punish and counter Spence every time he goes downstairs, he won't be as committed to the body as he usually is.

          Like I said I would favour Spence to win the fight, but people counting Thurman out are crazy. This fighting is gonna happen soon and the build up reminds me of Matthysse vs Garcia. Remember, all it takes is one time.

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            thurman is not a huge puncher

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              #7
              Originally posted by John Locke
              I think Spence beats Thurman but Porter is way faster than Spence on his feet. Porter's got faster feet than Thurman as well, I think that may be why Thurman didn't move as much against Porter as people expected. Porter closes the distance very quickly.

              Also Spence has to be a lot more careful when going to the body against Thurman, Thurman is going to be looking to punish and counter Spence every time he goes downstairs, he won't be as committed to the body as he usually is.

              Like I said I would favour Spence to win the fight, but people counting Thurman out are crazy. This fighting is gonna happen soon and the build up reminds me of Matthysse vs Garcia. Remember, all it takes is one time.
              There's no way in hell Porter has quicker feet than Spence, it aint even close! Did you see how quickly Spence closed down Algieri when he tried to run just prior to the end of the fight? This is the same Algieri that was able to outrun Pacquiao and continously chase down Khan. Sure Thurman is probably faster than Algieri on his feet, but hell nah Porter is faster than Spence, I can't even fathom in what world such a thing is possible.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Troy Williams
                What people need to understand is that styles make fights. After the Spence-Bundu fight I see lots of people saying Spence would beat Thurman because he stopped Bundu quicker, which is ridiculous.

                Styles make fights and Thurman, contrary to his nickname, is actually mostly a very flashy out-boxer/mover who happens to have a huge punch. It's not his style to cut off the ring and break you down on the inside, he prefers to stay on the outside and ambush you when there's an opening.

                Spence on the other hand is a country-boy, a brutal inside fighter who will walk you down, cut the ring off, bully you and maul you up close. Given his style, of course he was going to stop Bundu, who is 41 and doesn't have the fastest feet.

                It's one thing to cut the ring off on Bundu and Algieri, but Thurman's movement and foot speed is on a different level to these guys. Thurman himself packs a hell of a punch, and Spence has been hit before by uppercuts and right hands.

                So overall I still favor Thurman over Spence, I think Thurman could pull off a decision win but it would be hard, similar to the Porter fight. Spence would have trouble cornering Keith.
                Thurman can't take it to the body, Spence would work there early and wear him down until a stoppage.

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                • John Locke
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                  There's no way in hell Porter has quicker feet than Spence, it aint even close! Did you see how quickly Spence closed down Algieri when he tried to run just prior to the end of the fight? This is the same Algieri that was able to outrun Pacquiao and continously chase down Khan. Sure Thurman is probably faster than Algieri on his feet, but hell nah Porter is faster than Spence, I can't even fathom in what world such a thing is possible.
                  ...it's not even up for debate bro, I'm not sure how you've come to that conclusion. We've seen Porter get on his toes and move, use his legs as defence. Spence is a lot heavier on his feet, I'm not sure how anybody could think otherwise.



                  ^^ Porter uses his feet a lot in this fight for example

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                    There's no way in hell Porter has quicker feet than Spence, it aint even close! Did you see how quickly Spence closed down Algieri when he tried to run just prior to the end of the fight? This is the same Algieri that was able to outrun Pacquiao and continously chase down Khan. Sure Thurman is probably faster than Algieri on his feet, but hell nah Porter is faster than Spence, I can't even fathom in what world such a thing is possible.
                    Outrun? Algieri got dropped 6 times by Pacquiao, lolol....you call that outrunning? Pac took pitty on him and coasted down the stretch, he could have easily stopped Algieri had he chosen to.

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