Pacman training for Vargas fight.

**GrandpaBernard** · 08-24-2016, 03:05 PM

Still has blazing handspeed

**Beercules** · 08-24-2016, 03:10 PM

Saw some clips earlier. Yeah he is still very fast

**GMAN SUPREME** · 08-24-2016, 03:10 PM

LOL Pacquiao going into mma.

**WesternChamp** · 08-24-2016, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

Still has blazing handspeed

yeah that's what i thought too. his speed and power seem to still be there.

**ruedboy** · 08-24-2016, 04:52 PM

Still got the speed but Pac just aint the same since he got religion.
I like Manny, but he was something else when he was a womanizing tornado.

**WesternChamp** · 08-24-2016, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by ruedboy

Still got the speed but Pac just aint the same since he got religion.
I like Manny, but he was something else when he was a womanizing tornado.

he was always big on religion. look back at some of his old fights. i think as he got older he mature and has a difference mind set. plus he has money now so he's not going into his fights with a do or die mentality like before. before he was trying to win the crowd over, he's done that. its hard to keep the fire burning strong after all these years of success.

**-MAKAVELLI-** · 08-24-2016, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by ruedboy

Still got the speed but Pac just aint the same since he got religion.
I like Manny, but he was something else when he was a womanizing tornado.

that aint religion

that's called getting old

**crazed_z06** · 08-24-2016, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-

that aint religion

that's called getting old

I think the issue is he's taking fights where isnt being pushed to the limit. Last time that happened, he went to sleep. But truth be told, Pac/Marquez 4 was Pac's last good fight.

Everything else has been meh.

If they put him in with someone that is trying to hurt him, Pac will respond in kind and we'll see an old-timey war. But they're not going to do that. They're going to give him Vargas, Algieri, Bradley, etc

**WesternChamp** · 08-24-2016, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by crazed_z06

I think the issue is he's taking fights where isnt being pushed to the limit. Last time that happened, he went to sleep. But truth be told, Pac/Marquez 4 was Pac's last good fight.

Everything else has been meh.

If they put him in with someone that is trying to hurt him, Pac will respond in kind and we'll see an old-timey war. But they're not going to do that. They're going to give him Vargas, Algieri, Bradley, etc

vargas is a guy that will make him fight. wth are you talking about? do i think this is a good match up? no. do i think we'll see fireworks for as long as it last, of course.

Pacman training for Vargas fight.