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  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    I think once Teddy Atlas and others gave him such high praise then you knew the hype would escalate rapidly.

    Americans are looking for the next big prize fighting star so a young, dynamic fighter like Spence (and Crawford) will get hyped a little more than the resume deserves.

    At some point he's going to need to take a risk. You don't want to rush it but maybe he is a guy that can actually win one of those fights.
    Why do you think Crawford has so little hype compared to Spence? despite actually being a world champion,.

    Spence probably would beat a lot of good welterweights. But once he's champ, he'll have to fight good guys consistently. That's the issue. very few fighters can do that so early.

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    • Originally posted by SergioMartinez View Post
      You know i've been the ONLY guy on here pro Brook for about the last 5-6 years. Way before the Porter fight.

      And even I fight it funny, how Brook was perfectly fine with fighting mandatories until Spence became a mandatory. Or until he saw Spence would be a mandatory.
      Idk. I mean if you are trying to duck Spence do you go fight GGG? I say no way.

      I'm a Spence fan, but he's got a ways to go before we know how good he is or how much he should be feared by the guys above him and GGG is a much more feared guy right now it seems and ffs is 2 divisions up. As much as I'd love to see Spence vs Brook, Brook is making a much bigger jump up fighting GGG and I can't fathom he fights GGG to avoid Spence.

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      • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        I think once Teddy Atlas and others gave him such high praise then you knew the hype would escalate rapidly.

        Americans are looking for the next big prize fighting star so a young, dynamic fighter like Spence (and Crawford) will get hyped a little more than the resume deserves.

        At some point he's going to need to take a risk. You don't want to rush it but maybe he is a guy that can actually win one of those fights.
        I honestly don't see what so many peoples problem is with hyping fighters. Hype generates interest which in turn makes it possible for many fights to happen. Boxing has many problems, overhyping fighters is way down at the bottom of the list. Boxing needs multiple stars, not just a few. Waiting to hype a fighter until he reaches some subjective level of resume status seems silly to me. If some guy that has been hyped gets destroyed, so what, there should be 10 more just like him waiting in the wings. That is how a sport grows.

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        • Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
          Why do you think Crawford has so little hype compared to Spence? despite actually being a world champion,.

          Spence probably would beat a lot of good welterweights. But once he's champ, he'll have to fight good guys consistently. That's the issue. very few fighters can do that so early.
          Not really sure other than the fact PBC is on more networks and Spence is discussed on pretty much every TV show PBC has put on in the last few months. Atlas said he has no flaws, which coming from him means something.

          Here on NSB its likely because some posters are utterly ******ed and are just outcome oriented. They gave Crawford crap for "running" against Postol instead of talking about how he dominated that fight while Spence wins by KO overshadowing some of his defensive mistakes.

          I think Spence should be matched tough and he will do well IMO. However, in this era, PBC seems to "need" him to be undefeated so they can make him a "star", so my gut tells me he will be served more past it names like Bundu.

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          • Originally posted by DreamerUSA View Post
            I honestly don't see what so many peoples problem is with hyping fighters. Hype generates interest which in turn makes it possible for many fights to happen. Boxing has many problems, overhyping fighters is way down at the bottom of the list.
            Its never the hype, some fans & experts do that to create interest or sell a fight, but its also that it gets few guys treat the fighter is the TBE.. Its good for new fans to see a guy fight, but the guys who have been boxing fans since ages know that there is more to the game than all hype.. I am not saying Spence is all hype & no play.. I in fact like the guy & I think he will be a force to be recon with in a few yrs, but saying he will decimate everyone at 147 is silly & premature to say the least..

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            • Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
              lol and people want to defend it by saying Boom Boom Bundu had never been KO'd but c'mon the guy is over 40 years old, it was bound to happen. Id put $ that Berto & Broner wouldve done the same damn thing. Thurman just couldnt do it because Bundu was on his bike against him, he was coming forward against Spence and landing but it was a BB gun against a pistol. My thing is Spence has been matched with some pillow fisted fighters, there must be something we dont know yet. Just some food for thought...
              I think there is a lot to wonder about this guy. how do these guys make weight? there has to be something they are taking that is fairly new and real expensive where only highly backed fighters can get it

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              • If he is Overrated, if he is "Not That Good" if he is "Just OK" the solution is simple, someone grow a pair, STEP THE *** UP fight him and PROVE IT!

                We was stuck with Spence Jr vs Bundu because 4 other fighters turned down a fight with Spence Jr and they did that for a REASON!

                As for Kell Brook, I'm a Kell Brook fan as well but I predicted a YEAR AGO that he would not fight Spence Jr, no not because of fear because I thought Kell Brook would move up for bigger and better things and that is exactly what he did. Had nothing to do with Spence Jr though, so he ducked Spence Jr to move up 2 Weight Classes to fight GGG, that doesn't even make sense!

                I do like Spence Jr chances vs ANYBODY at 147 though including if Brook would've stayed at 147

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                • I agree that people shouldn't crown him so fast, but what you said about Thurman dropping Bundu and just trying to get rounds in was bologna.

                  Thurman himself admitted that he was a tough dude and that he wasn't there to be KO'ed that night so he switched his focus from finishing him to just winning the fight.

                  There's no need to to knock his performance or talk about hypotheticals at all. It was a good finish over a journeyman. The end.
                  Last edited by Biolink; 08-22-2016, 10:38 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by DreamerUSA View Post
                    I honestly don't see what so many peoples problem is with hyping fighters. Hype generates interest which in turn makes it possible for many fights to happen. Boxing has many problems, overhyping fighters is way down at the bottom of the list. Boxing needs multiple stars, not just a few. Waiting to hype a fighter until he reaches some subjective level of resume status seems silly to me. If some guy that has been hyped gets destroyed, so what, there should be 10 more just like him waiting in the wings. That is how a sport grows.
                    I agree with you. The problem is "stars" are made differently then they used to.

                    Losing hurts in the eyes of casual fans unless you have a built in nationalistic fanbase. Tough fights pay same or less than easy fight so no one wants to make tough fights for developing fighters.

                    Additionally, There aren't as many people boxing and gyms to develop talent in the US so you never really know what you have, which makes promoters risk averse.

                    How many promoters nowadays would put a 23 yr old Leonard or a 21 yr old Mayweather in with Benitez/Genaro today? You knew those guys had it when they were young. Fighters like SPence and Crawford are much older yet we still are not sure.

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                    • Way overrated. He fought nobody

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