Uzbekistan wins the most medals in boxing!

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  • The Hammer
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    I agree with the Irish boxer Michael Conklin that the judges may have been paid off in this Olympics.
    No one named "Michael Conklin" made any such statement!

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      #32
      Uzbeks are real tough motherf****ers.

      I know this from first hand experience with some of them, they are not the ppl to mess around with ..

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        #33
        Originally posted by Freedom.
        No one named "Michael Conklin" made any such statement!
        oops. thanks for that. Changed it to correct name.

        the point though is the almost every decision made by judges in Olympic boxing this year are severely tainted and highly questionable.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-22-2016, 12:24 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          oops. thanks for that. Changed it to correct name.

          the point though is the almost every decision made by judges in Olympic boxing this year are severely tainted and highly questionable.
          There have been robberies in every Olympics.

          Watch Khytrov-Ogogo and Savon-Joshua from 2012. Neither fight was even close, but the home UK boxer was given the win.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Freedom.
            There have been robberies in every Olympics.

            Watch Khytrov-Ogogo and Savon-Joshua from 2012. Neither fight was even close, but the home UK boxer was given the win.
            Look its 2016, lets stay in the present. I agree with Conlan about the judging in this Olympics. Seeing this thread makes his charges even more valid.

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              #36
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              oops. thanks for that. Changed it to correct name.

              the point though is the almost every decision made by judges in Olympic boxing this year are severely tainted and highly questionable.
              that's an exaggeration

              the only really egregious ones were tischenko (russia) over russo and levit, nikitin (russia) over butdee and conlan, harutyunyan (germany) over biyarslanov and gozgec, and the azeri pair, shakhsuvarly and mamishzada, over the kazakh pair, alimkhanuly and sattibayev

              of course, one robbery is too many, but the vast majority of decisions in the tournament were correct or at least understandable

              i've seen some people cite akhmadaliev's decision over yeraliyev and giyasov's decision over iglesias as robberies, but to me they were close fights with no clear winner (i'd personally lean towards akhmadaliev and iglesias but can see arguments for both ways). tulaganov over castillo was probably the worst decision that went in favour of an uzbek, but he redeemed himself in the next round with a clear win over abdullayev

              however, the kazakhs do seem to have been disproportionately victims of these dodgy or close decisions, so they have a right to feel a little aggrieved. with a little more luck they might've been #1 instead of uzbekistan

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                #37
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Look its 2016, lets stay in the present. I agree with Conlan about the judging in this Olympics. Seeing this thread makes his charges even more valid.
                Usbekistan deserved those medals, except for one gold which perhaps should have been a silver (I thought the Kazakh edged the Uzbek in a close fight).

                There were definitely some bad decisions in the 2016 Olympics though.

                Levit beat Tishchenko clearly, I hope he turns pro ASAP. Hrgović clearly beat Yoka, no one is talking much about that one.

                I thought Joyce edged Yoka, not really a robbery.

                But Conlan is just a crybaby. He lost a close fight.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by NEETzsche
                  that's an exaggeration

                  the only really egregious ones were tischenko (russia) over russo and levit, nikitin (russia) over butdee and conlan, harutyunyan (germany) over biyarslanov and gozgec, and the azeri pair, shakhsuvarly and mamishzada, over the kazakh pair, alimkhanuly and sattibayev

                  of course, one robbery is too many, but the vast majority of decisions in the tournament were correct or at least understandable

                  i've seen some people cite akhmadaliev's decision over yeraliyev and giyasov's decision over iglesias as robberies, but to me they were close fights with no clear winner (i'd personally lean towards akhmadaliev and iglesias but can see arguments for both ways). tulaganov over castillo was probably the worst decision that went in favour of an uzbek, but he redeemed himself in the next round with a clear win over abdullayev

                  however, the kazakhs do seem to have been disproportionately victims of these dodgy or close decisions, so they have a right to feel a little aggrieved. with a little more luck they might've been #1 instead of uzbekistan
                  Originally posted by Freedom.
                  Usbekistan deserved those medals, except for one gold which perhaps should have been a silver (I thought the Kazakh edged the Uzbek in a close fight).

                  There were definitely some bad decisions in the 2016 Olympics though.

                  Levit beat Tishchenko clearly, I hope he turns pro ASAP. Hrgović clearly beat Yoka, no one is talking much about that one.

                  I thought Joyce edged Yoka, not really a robbery.

                  But Conlan is just a crybaby. He lost a close fight.
                  I understand your points but just the fact that you are both listing so many underscores Conlan's points.

                  Yeah Tunney, Conlan lost so bad that Nitkin was too hurt (really afraid IMO) to fight Shakur Stevenson.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    I understand your points but just the fact that you are both listing so many underscores Conlan's points.
                    you can really just pin it down to russia, germany and azerbaijan. maybe tony yoka too

                    no need to discount uzbekistan's excellent tournament

                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Yeah Tunney, Conlan lost so bad that Nitkin was too hurt (really afraid IMO) to fight Shakur Stevenson.
                    actually i think it had more to do with the huge gash on the side of his head that he sustained from a headbutt in his opening bout

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                      #40
                      Uzbekistan’s new Olympic Light Flyweight Champion Hasanboy Dusmatov wins the Val Barker Trophy for the outstanding male boxer of Rio 2016

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