Comments Thread For: Conor McGregor With Majority Decision Over Diaz in Bloody Fight

[TheCell8]

Boxingscene can't even help themselves but talk about Conor's fights.

He's a living legend and now that he's got this win he's back on track and still the biggest name in combat sports.

[petegrif]

Here's the problem.

I've been a boxing fan for > 50 years. I love the sport.

BUT it has been ****ed up for most of that time for ****ty sanctioning bodies and corrupt promoters.

Every now and then it has gone thru golden periods when great fighters have fought great fighters but for most of the time such fights have been avoided

UFC is a hideous abusive monopoly where fighters are frequently horribly underpaid.

BUT

the best regularly fight the best..

UFC knows that's what the fans want and they 'own' the figthers so they make it happen.

For Canelo to duck GGG in UFC would have been impossible, for example.

SO us fight fans, who love boxing, as I have done for way too long, we are basjcailly subjected to totally ****ty fights. most of the time by networks and promoters who don't give a damn about us because they don't have to.

So you can ***** all you like about MMA, and there are llegit reason to do so (fighters' pay) but at least they have well matched fights all the time even if you don't know the sport well enough to understand that .

[Zaroku]

It was a war! Want to see part 3!

[Boxing Logic]

I don't watch ufc like that but the level of respect the commentators have for there fighters shocked me. I thought at some point they was going to criticize the fighters outside the ring short comings and just dog them out. Or complain about mcgregor running...it is a lot different than boxing even tho I like boxing 10x more.

makes me want to cringe at boxing commentators.

Thats because UFC fighters have to fight the best, and they are penalized for running. You lose a point if you really run. Mcgregor gassed so he walked, like Virgil Hunter taught Amir Khan to do when he's hurt, to maintain distance and get his breath back. He only walked for 10 secs at a time, when he was gassed. Otherwise he came to fight which is how he knocked down Diaz 3 times lol.

But yeah they have to fight the best, they're not allowed to run, so what is there to criticize? Everyone who steps into the cage has balls and is a real fighter who sooner or later will have to exchange big shots in 4 ounce gloves.

Boxing is different because it's full of cherry pickers who don't engage, and who are allowed to run and hold. That's why commentators must absolutely criticize if they're going to be objective.

[Boxing Logic]

don't watch mma that often but looked at this fight because there wasn't really boxing tonight.

am i missing something here? i really don't know ether guy. but diaz clearly won 3 rounds for me? what the hell. the MMA fans are celebrating this decision also. it's like what am i missing?

You probably got swayed by the commentary. At the end of round 2 Mcgregor was gassing, Diaz was coming on, and the commentators got very excited because it looked like a repeat of the first fight, and that Diaz was coming back. It could have been a big moment in the fight if Mcgregor hadnt been able to continue through 5 rounds.

But in reality was just the last minute of the 5 minute round, a round where Mcgregor had dominated for first three and a half minutes, including a knockdown. 3.5 mins of dominance, with a knockdown, beats 1 min of dirty boxing octagon control and momentum, with a few good shots but mostly a lot of smaller shots on the arms and stuff, with no knockdown.

That's how Mcgregor won round 1 clearly, edged round 2, and won round 4 clearly. 3 rounds to 2, the right man won. Rewatch the 2nd round without commentary and you'll definitely see what i mean.

[Boxing Logic]

Diaz won that

Disagree. But if you think Castillo beat Floyd, then I would definitely agree with that. An easy fight to score, actually, but boxing has a lot of corrupt scorecards, unlike MMA where they almost always get it right. There was actually a pro-Diaz judge who gave him a 10-8 round in round 3 but somehow didn't also give Mcgregor a 10-8 round in round 1 when he got two knockdowns and dominated the whole round. But otherwise, the judges all got it right, all three giving round 1, round 2, and round 4 to Mcgregor, same as I had it. Wasn't that hard to score actually, the commentators just got really excited about the late round flurry by Diaz in round 2. It's human nature to remember the most recent stuff more but when you rewatch the round, you'll see Mcgregor controlled 3.5 minutes and Diaz only controlled 1 minute. Plus, Mcgregor had the knockdown. No knockdowns for Diaz. 3.5 mins of dominance, plus a knockdown, beats 1 min of dominance, and no knockdown, any day of the week. Not even hard to score. But the commentators made it harder, I'll give you that, because they got really excited about Diaz's last flurry since it could have been a turning point in the fight.

It definitely could have been. It would have been if CM didnt win round 4. But ultimately it wasn't, and even if it had been a turning point for the rest of the fight, that's different than winning the round. It was almost a turning point in the last minute of that round, going forward, but he still lost that round because before the turning point, he got dominated for the majority of the round, and knocked down. Very straightforward.

[Boxing Logic]

Love all the posts thinking they the **** because they like boxing, not "human ****fighting." As if boxing isn't also fighting. "But with boxing there's a craft to it, a sweet science!" Yeah and with MMA there's ****ing Judo and Jujitsu and Karate and all that ****. That's not a craft? It's like people will look for any ****ing excuse to feel superior about their hobbies. I prefer boxing too because MMA has too much rolling around, not enough fighting, but it's balanced out somewhat by the fact that MMA fighters fight the best.

If only we could get the best of both, and have boxing where boxers fought the top ranked guys one after another in a league setting, three fights a year... that would be something.

[b Murphington]

Love all the posts thinking they the **** because they like boxing, not "human ****fighting." As if boxing isn't also fighting. "But with boxing there's a craft to it, a sweet science!" Yeah and with MMA there's ****ing Judo and Jujitsu and Karate and all that ****. That's not a craft? It's like people will look for any ****ing excuse to feel superior about their hobbies. I prefer boxing too because MMA has too much rolling around, not enough fighting, but it's balanced out somewhat by the fact that MMA fighters fight the best.

If only we could get the best of both, and have boxing where boxers fought the top ranked guys one after another in a league setting, three fights a year... that would be something.

That's not the reason at all. Has nothing to do with ****ing all over MMA and saying "go boxing," but we are boxing fans. We're going to love boxing first.

This is a boxing website. Not an MMA website. There are plenty of websites to post MMA news. This is not one of those places.

You think MMA fans want to read about Errol Spences fight tomorrow? They don't even know who he is. They're gonna say the exact same **** we're saying here. Why post an article about MMA on a boxing site? At least when they were posting about McGreagor, they were talking about him fighting Floyd, so at least that had something to do with boxing. This doesn't. Keep it off of here.

[ssc73]

Boxingscene can't even help themselves but talk about Conor's fights.

He's a living legend and now that he's got this win he's back on track and still the biggest name in combat sports.

Living Legend?? PUH-LEASE!!! Dude has a whole 6 fights in the UFC........And Boxing Scene covers MMA......smdh.....it was a big event for the UFC but the biggest name in combat sports?? Don't think so.......Canelo-Smith, a true garbage fight will get more press.......

Using your legs and holding has been done in boxing since the beginning and when you look at most people's all-time P4P list, half or more of the guys on that list did it. People act like it was just invented when in fact, in some of the best fights ever, holding was a MAJOR KEY for guys like Ali, Leonard, Floyd, Whittaker, Pep, list goes on forever. Same as when a fighter slides one way or another quickly........call it what you like, it's to frustrate an aggressive fighter and force them to re-set......holding is something SMART DEFENSIVE FIGHTERS DO.........and there is more holding in MMA than in boxing. The only difference is that thanks to having your fingers free, they try to get hand control, etc. or prevent/defend themselves from knees, punches, and takedowns, etc. But it's for the same reason-NOT TO GET KTFO.......

I have a lot of respect for what MMA guys do. I have a lot of experience boxing but have sparred with some MMA dudes.....but you're crazy if you don't think they borrow heavily from boxers.

If McGregor was truly the biggest name in combat sports, why are there at least a dozen boxers that get paid more than his 'record $3M purse' just about every time they fight??

I wish we could get back to one sanctioning body and the champions were forced to defend 2x a year, once per year vs #1 and once vs no lower than #5.......then they could fight a third fight against whoever they wanted but no easy 'title defenses' against someone whose rating was essentially paid for by a promoter in tight with a sanctioning body.

Fighters are brought up more carefully........but when you realize that the record number of UFC wins is barely 20?? They keep rosters. Boxers try to get much more polished before they take their big shot and instead of 20 wins in a career, they have 20 before a title fight. There is nothing wrong with timing that properly........but I do believe the UFC does have better practices when it comes to who fights who......if you're the best in your class and just won the title, you gotta fight the guy next in line pretty damn quick.....

Boxing can be fixed. Just depends if they are serious about fixing it..........it would take a lot of time, but it can be done.

But don't kid yourselves, MMA may have a more vocal following....but not a bigger one. They may overtake boxing eventually but it will take another 20 years.......their buyrates are too low because nobody can afford two PPV every month..........and frankly, there are just as many dud fights in MMA as in boxing when you combine the various MMA brands and use it on a scale to boxing where there are sooo many more fights......

And the only difference the gloves make is that cuts are more likely to happen in th gloves they use. If you catch someone, they go to sleep regardless of glove size........I've used both and their is actually a more concussive effect from the larger gloves.....

I enjoy a good MMA fight. But I'll still take a good boxing match any day. That's just me. But I'm not gonna be one of those guys who shytes on MMA because I have a preference. We should support both where appropriate.......

[koolbreez12]

If you get points for KDs then Connor won. If not Diaz won. He got dropped in the 2nd rd I thought he dominated that round otherwise. I gave him the 3rd and the 5th too. All depends on how UFC treats KDs.

On another note, the fight was decent. A lot people making it out to be much more than it was. It was a poor man's boxing match. The smaller gloves is what makes it look better because of the gore factor.