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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Because... That's Boxing For You.

    By Jake Donovan - Teofimo Lopez tried to warn media on site and viewers at home that corruption was alive and well, both in the 2016 Rio Olympics and within the International Boxing Association (AIBA), which oversees amateur boxing around the globe. The boxer from New York who was representing Honduras in this year's competition landed on the very wrong end of a strangely scored points loss to France's Sofiane Oumiha in welterweight Round of 32 action.
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    You should check out the pre olympics series of articles on ********* about corruption in AIBA. In it the writer details what he calls the Magnificent Seven. Seven AIBA r&j's who are put higher than everyone else (5 star certified instead of the normal 3) - Of the judges named to have been thrown out, ALL seven of the highest decorated AIBA judges are among them, in fact they make up the vast majority. The "coincidence" that these judges were pointed out by a journalist as a problem BEFORE the Olympics aside, it would seem to be a very ironic situation that AIBA has to pull out the judges that they themselves had put on a piedestal as the best available, because of controversial scoring in the Olympics. I have been to a couple of the qualifying events for Rio, and things were even worse there.

    My hope is that the media will not let up on this situation until it drastic measures are taken to correct things for the better of the sport and to give boxers just decisions in the future.
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      Westerners should learn how to behave themselves. They lose a decision in a very close fight and then cry about a robbery. You should win deciesievly or don't cry about your defeat.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Shpacman
        Westerners should learn how to behave themselves. They lose a decision in a very close fight and then cry about a robbery. You should win deciesievly or don't cry about your defeat.
        Except a lot of them have won decisively and been robbed.

        Great article, AIBA need to be accountable to someone.

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        • MDPopescu
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          #5
          AIBA works like a "co-operative"... (a modern substitute for "medieval corporation", "guild")...

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            #6
            Originally posted by Shpacman
            Westerners should learn how to behave themselves. They lose a decision in a very close fight and then cry about a robbery. You should win deciesievly or don't cry about your defeat.
            Russians should learn that doping and buying the judges is not winning, just cheating.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Ryn0
              Except a lot of them have won decisively and been robbed.

              Great article, AIBA need to be accountable to someone.
              No. Russell and Conlan had very close fights, when you can give rounds to either side. Tischenko Levit was a clear robbery though.

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                #8
                Originally posted by PunchDrunk
                You should check out the pre olympics series of articles on ********* about corruption in AIBA. In it the writer details what he calls the Magnificent Seven. Seven AIBA r&j's who are put higher than everyone else (5 star certified instead of the normal 3) - Of the judges named to have been thrown out, ALL seven of the highest decorated AIBA judges are among them, in fact they make up the vast majority. The "coincidence" that these judges were pointed out by a journalist as a problem BEFORE the Olympics aside, it would seem to be a very ironic situation that AIBA has to pull out the judges that they themselves had put on a piedestal as the best available, because of controversial scoring in the Olympics. I have been to a couple of the qualifying events for Rio, and things were even worse there.

                My hope is that the media will not let up on this situation until it drastic measures are taken to correct things for the better of the sport and to give boxers just decisions in the future.
                Good post. Interesting info about some of these refs and judges. And disturbingly not a shock or anything, just f#cked up the level of corruption in boxing keeps getting pushed forward.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Shpacman
                  No. Russell and Conlan had very close fights, when you can give rounds to either side. Tischenko Levit was a clear robbery though.
                  In Russel's fight the opponent had to be admonished for not fighting yet somehow he wins anyway. Conlan was clearly robbed.

                  I know corruption is a way of life for many Eastern Euros but we don't want that mentality to spread to the West any more than it already has.

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                  • Shpacman
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    In Russel's fight the opponent had to be admonished for not fighting yet somehow he wins anyway. Conlan was clearly robbed.

                    I know corruption is a way of life for many Eastern Euros but we don't want that mentality to spread to the West any more than it already has.
                    These two fights were very close. It's a very common thing that in a close fight the win can go to either fighter.
                    If you talk about corruption you should remember that two most corrupt countries in boxing are Germany and Great Britain, from west

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