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Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone View PostHe shouldn't get full credit, you're right. But, Mosley has looked better than DLH in the last 5 years. Judah is just Judah, nothing special. When comparing common opponents, Miguel did a better job, and hes not retiring to avoid anyone, Floyd is.
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Originally posted by Parody View PostWow, Your not biased at all with no double standards (Sarcasm)
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Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone View PostWheres the double standard? I just agreed that Cotto shouldn't get credit for fighting an aged Mosley even though Mosley has fared better than DLH in the last 5 years. Grasp for straws much? I guess it would have been better had I completely disagreed with you just to disagree. I'm a grown man, not some kid in flip flops. If I make a mistake, I own up to it. If you know something I don't, I'll tell you. But I'm not just some average joe with an agenda. Floyd Mayweather is the single greatest talent I've ever seen in my life, but what hes done with his talents is worthy of the praise above 140. What hes done at 130 and 135 is quite remarkable, but I'm not going to sit here and say his work at 140 and above is very impressive because its not. He was the champion in the toughest division and he chose not to fight a single top 3 contender who was in their prime. As a boxing fan, I have a problem with hoisting him up so high.
DLH:
P4P #1 - Mayweather
P4P #1 at the time - Hopkins
Middleweight - Felix Sturm
Ricardo Mayorga
Fernando Vargas
Apart from Mayorga, I dont think Mosley would have beaten a single one. Do keep in mind that Vargas 4 years later was VERY Competitive with Mosley in their first fight and also before has beaten Winky Wright, Ricardo Mayorga beat Fernando Vargas in his recent fight which showed us how shot Vargas was, and because styles make fights I wont use the "DLH KO'd Mayorga, who beat Vargas, who was competitive with Mosley" theory but its just an example on what some guys do by saying "Cotto beat them better". We do agree styles make fights right? Foreman beat Frazier better than Ali, but the end of the day we knew styles made fights and Foreman-Ali was different, This is just an example for you. Now I didn't mean to attack you or anything but Mosley in his last 5 years lost to Wright twice, which DLH would too, fair enough but then struggled against fighters such as Jose luis cruz and Estrada, was competitive with a Ruined by Tito/Oscar Vargas. You may not care what the majority opinion is but if you dont like a fighter dont let your hate cloud your judgement, saying Hatton, Baldomir, DLH or Judah aren't good wins is the same as saying Quintana, Mosley, Judah aren't good wins, If you want to critise one, you have no right to praise the other either.Last edited by Parody; 06-06-2008, 10:09 PM.
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Originally posted by Parody View PostLook at who Mosley and DLH fought in the last 5 years:
DLH:
P4P #1 - Mayweather
P4P #1 at the time - Hopkins
Middleweight - Felix Sturm
Ricardo Mayorga
Fernando Vargas
Apart from Mayorga, I dont think Mosley would have beaten a single one. Do keep in mind that Vargas 4 years later was VERY Competitive with Mosley in their first fight and also before has beaten Winky Wright, Ricardo Mayorga beat Fernando Vargas in his recent fight which showed us how shot Vargas was, and because styles make fights I wont use the "DLH KO'd Mayorga, who beat Vargas, who was competitive with Mosley" theory but its just an example on what some guys do by saying "Cotto beat them better". We do agree styles make fights right? Foreman beat Frazier better than Ali, but the end of the day we knew styles made fights and Foreman-Ali was different, This is just an example for you. Now I didn't mean to attack you or anything but Mosley in his last 5 years lost to Wright twice, which DLH would too, fair enough but then struggled against fighters such as Jose luis cruz and Estrada, was competitive with a Ruined by Tito/Oscar Vargas. You may not care what the majority opinion is but if you dont like a fighter dont let your hate cloud your judgement, saying Hatton, Baldomir, DLH or Judah aren't good wins is the same as saying Quintana, Mosley, Judah aren't good wins, If you want to critise one, you have no right to praise the other either.
Untill I proved him wrong...
He knows **** about Boxing....
JUST ignore him
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Originally posted by Parody View PostLook at who Mosley and DLH fought in the last 5 years:
DLH:
P4P #1 - Mayweather
P4P #1 at the time - Hopkins
Middleweight - Felix Sturm
Ricardo Mayorga
Fernando Vargas
Apart from Mayorga, I dont think Mosley would have beaten a single one. Do keep in mind that Vargas 4 years later was VERY Competitive with Mosley in their first fight and also before has beaten Winky Wright, Ricardo Mayorga beat Fernando Vargas in his recent fight which showed us how shot Vargas was, and because styles make fights I wont use the "DLH KO'd Mayorga, who beat Vargas, who was competitive with Mosley" theory but its just an example on what some guys do by saying "Cotto beat them better". We do agree styles make fights right? Foreman beat Frazier better than Ali, but the end of the day we knew styles made fights and Foreman-Ali was different, This is just an example for you. Now I didn't mean to attack you or anything but Mosley in his last 5 years lost to Wright twice, which DLH would too, fair enough but then struggled against fighters such as Jose luis cruz and Estrada, was competitive with a Ruined by Tito/Oscar Vargas. You may not care what the majority opinion is but if you dont like a fighter dont let your hate cloud your judgement, saying Hatton, Baldomir, DLH or Judah aren't good wins is the same as saying Quintana, Mosley, Judah aren't good wins, If you want to critise one, you have no right to praise the other either.
When there are 3 prime welterweight contenders in the division, no, those aren't good wins. Not even close.
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