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  • PivotandRoll
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    #61
    Originally posted by NYC8224
    If Brook does win, where does he go next? Does he stay at that weight?
    Saunders at 160, Winner of Smith/Canelo at 154 before making his way back down to 147 the right way hopefully

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      #62
      Originally posted by Chuckguy
      No no no just no
      Floyd fought PAC 5 years too late
      In that case did up Muhammad Ali so I can fight him and win a close epic war then I can say it don't matter all that matters is that I beat him
      I am the greatest!
      Right....because Floyd doesn't age.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        There's no controversy with Team Golovkin's predictions. The question is why would they say it? Usually, you talk up a fight, especially when it's a clear mismatch. Of course Brook, like any fighter, can surprise us with an upset. Ask Fonfara! But realistically Brook has no chance:

        March 27, 2016:

        There are occasions in boxing when a fighter's CV doesn't reveal the full story.

        For instance, when Ismael Barroso arrived in London to fight Kevin Mitchell in December 2015, his career record contained two draws, no real names of note and a three-year period of inactivity.

        But, at 32, he turned out to be a hidden gem in an age when social media makes it hard for anyone to go unnoticed. The Venezuelan beat Mitchell and will next face WBA lightweight champion Anthony Crolla.

        When you looked at Bizier's record, it was hard to make a case for him getting the better of Brook.

        The Canadian had lost twice before, both times to Jo Jo Dan. Yes, the same Jo Jo Dan whom Brook defeated with ease on March 28, 2015 (when the Canadian-based Romanian was his mandatory challenger).

        The form guide suggested it wasn't going to be a difficult night for Brook, and so it proved. With Bizier, it was a case of the fighter's CV revealing exactly what was going to happen in the ring.

        Bizier may have prepared well for the biggest fight of his life, but he wasn't ready for the power and accuracy of Brook's punches.

        The question to be asked is, what was Bizier doing in the ring with Brook in the first place?

        For the second time in less than a year, the IBF served up a challenger who didn't merit such an opportunity...

        The Special One always looks, well, special against opponents who are not quite at the world level. He has become an expert at making easy work of fighters he is expected to beat comfortably.

        Now, though, he needs to be challenged.

        Brook admitted as much in his post-fight interview on Sky Sports (h/t Tim Hobbs of SkySports.com): "I hit him with a shot and that was all she wrote. I've got my mandatory out of the way and we're going to get the big fight now."

        The pressure is on promoter Eddie Hearn to deliver something big for one of his prized assets in the Matchroom stable.



        The moral of the story is that Kell Brook has not been tested. He did no better job against Porter than WW champion Keith Thurman, What tells us that he can do something close to similar with GGG? Nothing!!! However it is K2's job to tell us that we're wrong about Brook! They should not reinforce the notion that this is a mismatch!
        I believe it's a mismatch due to fact that GGG has knocked out top ten guys in his division. But we can't count brook out because he has too knocked people out left and right but not the same quality. Now, if people argue that he fights bums then it shouldn't be a mismatch. Just two bum beaters duking it out no? One heavier than the other I guess. Still buying this fight. GGG is exciting and brook can shock the world, what's not to like.

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          #64
          Originally posted by bigdramashow
          going to be hard if they are fighting a unification fight with each other next
          Sergiy Derevyanchenko Would be a good fight....Though he's a bit raw.

          Offer Saunders some real money....

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            #65
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            There's no controversy with Team Golovkin's predictions. The question is why would they say it? Usually, you talk up a fight, especially when it's a clear mismatch. Of course Brook, like any fighter, can surprise us with an upset. Ask Fonfara! But realistically Brook has no chance:

            March 27, 2016:

            There are occasions in boxing when a fighter's CV doesn't reveal the full story.

            For instance, when Ismael Barroso arrived in London to fight Kevin Mitchell in December 2015, his career record contained two draws, no real names of note and a three-year period of inactivity.

            But, at 32, he turned out to be a hidden gem in an age when social media makes it hard for anyone to go unnoticed. The Venezuelan beat Mitchell and will next face WBA lightweight champion Anthony Crolla.

            When you looked at Bizier's record, it was hard to make a case for him getting the better of Brook.

            The Canadian had lost twice before, both times to Jo Jo Dan. Yes, the same Jo Jo Dan whom Brook defeated with ease on March 28, 2015 (when the Canadian-based Romanian was his mandatory challenger).

            The form guide suggested it wasn't going to be a difficult night for Brook, and so it proved. With Bizier, it was a case of the fighter's CV revealing exactly what was going to happen in the ring.

            Bizier may have prepared well for the biggest fight of his life, but he wasn't ready for the power and accuracy of Brook's punches.

            The question to be asked is, what was Bizier doing in the ring with Brook in the first place?

            For the second time in less than a year, the IBF served up a challenger who didn't merit such an opportunity...

            The Special One always looks, well, special against opponents who are not quite at the world level. He has become an expert at making easy work of fighters he is expected to beat comfortably.

            Now, though, he needs to be challenged.

            Brook admitted as much in his post-fight interview on Sky Sports (h/t Tim Hobbs of SkySports.com): "I hit him with a shot and that was all she wrote. I've got my mandatory out of the way and we're going to get the big fight now."

            The pressure is on promoter Eddie Hearn to deliver something big for one of his prized assets in the Matchroom stable.



            The moral of the story is that Kell Brook has not been tested. He did no better job against Porter than WW champion Keith Thurman, What tells us that he can do something close to similar with GGG? Nothing!!! However it is K2's job to tell us that we're wrong about Brook! They should not reinforce the notion that this is a mismatch!
            Bizier beat the undefeated "knockout artist" Fredrick Lawson to get his fight with Brook...... It'd be like complaining about Brook fighting Bundu if he beats Spence because Thurman already beat him.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Obliterator
              Point being you can't please everyone. Just like people talked about floyd not fighting pac and he wins and everyone starts with the excuses. Point is he fought him. Point here is you can't go both ways. Stick to one.
              Pacquiao was viewed as a competitive fight, this is not. The two aren't comparable. Golovkin gets zero credit for winning this fight, if he struggles or loses his stock plummets.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Obliterator
                That's funny because floyd is older. Both were out of their prime c'mon. Something tells me there would've been excuses even if floyd won if they fought years ago. Flawed logic, Ali can be your grandpa. Don't tell me floyd is 40 years older than pac. Keep it simple buddy.
                Of course there would always be excuses. No one is arguing there wouldn't be. My thing is Floyd beat manny 5 years too late and had manny won I would have said the same thing.

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                • Obliterator
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                  Pacquiao was viewed as a competitive fight, this is not. The two aren't comparable. Golovkin gets zero credit for winning this fight, if he struggles or loses his stock plummets.
                  Not comparing fights. Comparing people's excuses towards them.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Chuckguy
                    Of course there would always be excuses. No one is arguing there wouldn't be. My thing is Floyd beat manny 5 years too late and had manny won I would have said the same thing.
                    Fair enough. Most would praise Manny though. From what I read on comments. Don't get me wrong I love watching manny fight. Floyd is a master but it does get boring. I appreciate all boxers. Back to topic... what I'm trying to say is if someone likes one guy they support him no matter if he's wrong or right. Let's not be biased.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Obliterator
                      Fair enough. Most would praise Manny though. From what I read on comments. Don't get me wrong I love watching manny fight. Floyd is a master but it does get boring. I appreciate all boxers. Back to topic... what I'm trying to say is if someone likes one guy they support him no matter if he's wrong or right. Let's not be biased.
                      I'm a rare one on this site. I was a huge GGG fan then he pulled off this brook be fight and I jumped ship! Now I'm hoping brook pulls off the upset

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