Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach: Canelo Fight Will Happen, When GGG is 60!

[nycsmooth]

IMO it won't happen in 2017 the best part of Fraudverez' s boxing ability is ducking...

[Box-Office]

Canelo paid his dues by giving advantages to Cotto and Floyd to land them in the ring. Now it is GGG's turn. If he is wiling to move down to 154 for Floyd he could've surely done 155 for Canelo. This insistence to fight at 160 vs Canelo only hurts GGG, whois 34 & his best wins are Lemeiux & Murray, who are solid but for someone rated so high, it isn't much.



GGG is a small MW and it wouldn't be draining him not to mention Canelo is the A-side and while its not fair, but that is life. There is a reason why Mr 100 K PPV sales is travelling to UK to fight a Welter in his country.




You can call Canelo every name in the book, but he has a great resume, a lucrative fan base, oh and youth meaning he can fight a great name in the future to make up for this debacle.

[drool]

I'm not in favor of Canelo moving up and snagging the middleweight belts in 1 fight, and then leaving the division when asked to fight and become the lineal champ.
However, GGG will only take fighters that come down to his weight or go down a weight class to fight smaller fighters (e.g. Floyd at SMW), if the money is right.
He will not make the move upward to fight ANYONE. It's time, Gennady. Enough with the blown up welters making fights at middleweight.

[j0zef]

Canelo paid his dues by giving advantages to Cotto and Floyd to land them in the ring. Now it is GGG's turn. If he is wiling to move down to 154 for Floyd he could've surely done 155 for Canelo. This insistence to fight at 160 vs Canelo only hurts GGG, whois 34 & his best wins are Lemeiux & Murray, who are solid but for someone rated so high, it isn't much.



GGG is a small MW and it wouldn't be draining him not to mention Canelo is the A-side and while its not fair, but that is life. There is a reason why Mr 100 K PPV sales is travelling to UK to fight a Welter in his country.




You can call Canelo every name in the book, but he has a great resume, a lucrative fan base, oh and youth meaning he can fight a great name in the future to make up for this debacle.

The whole "Canelo up advantages" thing is a bunch of bull****. He got paid less vs. Cotto because he was the lesser draw/didn't have a belt.
And against Floyd, he gave up 2 lbs when he was 23 years old. Woopdee doo.

It's a joke. Canelo has been SIGNIFICANTLY heavier than his opponent in the last 15 fights. He's the one with the advantages.

[bigdunny1]

*** boy Sanchez basically admitting that GGG won't leave 160 until he's 60. I guess all that 154 or 168 talk was just Bullshyt. Keep making excuses for fighting bums and refusing to budge on weight to make a big fight.

Stays begging WW's and Super WW's to move up to 160 for the first time in their careers while refusing to do the same. Clown won't go up or down 160 worse resume of any so called elite fighter I've ever seen.

[Box-Office]

The whole "Canelo up advantages" thing is a bunch of bull****. He got paid less vs. Cotto because he was the lesser draw/didn't have a belt.
And against Floyd, he gave up 2 lbs when he was 23 years old. Woopdee doo.

He got paid less vs Cotto cuz they had to give up $ to bring the fight to Vegas instead of NY.


Cotto didn't have the belt vs Sergio. Means nothing. GGG has 3 at MW and is travelling to UK.


In boxing the weight you fight at is the maximum possible low your body will allow you to reach without compromising your health, so every lb means something. That's why a 5'8 Welters normal weight is around 160-170 and that's why people are fined such hefty amounts for being a lb or two over.

It's a joke. Canelo has been SIGNIFICANTLY heavier than his opponent in the last 15 fights. He's the one with the advantages.

I was specifically talking about Floyd n Cotto. In the former he gave up weight and the latter $.


Doesn't matter if he came in heavy vs Floyd, he was already weak from making the catch weight.




At the end we can discuss Canelo all day but it is Triple G who is 34 and fighting a Welter and refuses to either move down or up to fight a name which again only hurts HIM and HIM alone.

[j0zef]

He got paid less vs Cotto cuz they had to give up $ to bring the fight to Vegas instead of NY.


Cotto didn't have the belt vs Sergio. Means nothing. GGG has 3 at MW and is travelling to UK.


In boxing the weight you fight at is the maximum possible low your body will allow you to reach without compromising your health, so every lb means something. That's why a 5'8 Welters normal weight is around 160-170 and that's why people are fined such hefty amounts for being a lb or two over.





I was specifically talking about Floyd n Cotto. In the former he gave up weight and the latter $.


Doesn't matter if he came in heavy vs Floyd, he was already weak from making the catch weight.




At the end we can discuss Canelo all day but it is Triple G who is 34 and fighting a Welter and refuses to either move down or up to fight a name which again only hurts HIM and HIM alone.

Golovkin has never been a problem when comes to money negotiations, unless you're Lara/Jacobs/Quillin/BJS who somehow thought they can get paid 3x Golovkin's best purse. He's never said he wants 50/50 purse with Canelo and he knows what to expect.

And the "weak from catchweight" is a load of bollocks. Two pounds when you're 23 is nothing. 5 pounds when you're 34 is 10 times more difficult. Trying to say that they're somehow the same is laughable.

[Mzembe]

*** boy Sanchez basically admitting that GGG won't leave 160 until he's 60. I guess all that 154 or 168 talk was just Bullshyt. Keep making excuses for fighting bums and refusing to budge on weight to make a big fight.

Stays begging WW's and Super WW's to move up to 160 for the first time in their careers while refusing to do the same. Clown won't go up or down 160 worse resume of any so called elite fighter I've ever seen.

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Didn't Hopkins do the same thing at 160? He forced bigger names (Oscar and Tito) to move up in weight to fight so he could bully them around then forced Winky to fight at 170 when Winky was in his prime. Hopkins now holds the record for the longest reign by a MW. I bet you think Hopkins is an all time great?

GGG did not ask for a fight with Brooks and neither did he force Brooks to fight him at 160. Brooks promoter mentioned the fight to Brooks and Brooks jumped at it.

GGG has pretty much cleaned up the 160Ibs division with the exception of your cousin Canelo the coward. He's also said he wants to break the Old Dirty Bastard Hopkins record which he will do.

GGG does not need to move up to 168 to prove anything. Calzaghe stayed at 168 and cemented his legacy as the greatest 168Ibs fighter ever.

You keep scratching your anus while sitting comfortable in the basement of your mother's house pretending to be a warrior and criticizing a legitimate MW champion who has fought literally everyone in his division.

[Box-Office]

Golovkin has never been a problem when comes to money negotiations, unless you're Lara/Jacobs/Quillin/BJS who somehow thought they can get paid 3x Golovkin's best purse. He's never said he wants 50/50 purse with Canelo and he knows what to expect.

And the "weak from catchweight" is a load of bollocks. Two pounds when you're 23 is nothing. 5 pounds when you're 34 is 10 times more difficult. Trying to say that they're somehow the same is laughable.

I've never made the argument GGG is hard to negotiate on $. My initial post mentioned weight. The $ part was for Canelo-Cotto. Plus what $ does he even bring anyways? LOL he is travelling to a WW's home town an ocean away.


But he is willing to move down for a fight with Mayweather all the way to 154?


When they did the 30 day check in weight for GGG-Wade, Golovkin had 30 days to lose 4 lbs where as Wade was at 171 lbs. Point is GGG is a small MW.


Even if it is difficult who is it hurting? Who lacks names? Who loses out on a massive payday?

[bigdunny1]

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Didn't Hopkins do the same thing at 160? He forced bigger names (Oscar and Tito) to move up in weight to fight so he could bully them around then forced Winky to fight at 170 when Winky was in his prime. Hopkins now holds the record for the longest reign by a MW. I bet you think Hopkins is an all time great?

GGG did not ask for a fight with Brooks and neither did he force Brooks to fight him at 160. Brooks promoter mentioned the fight to Brooks and Brooks jumped at it.

GGG has pretty much cleaned up the 160Ibs division with the exception of your cousin Canelo the coward. He's also said he wants to break the Old Dirty Bastard Hopkins record which he will do.

GGG does not need to move up to 168 to prove anything. Calzaghe stayed at 168 and cemented his legacy as the greatest 168Ibs fighter ever.

You keep scratching your anus while sitting comfortable in the basement of your mother's house pretending to be a warrior and criticizing a legitimate MW champion who has fought literally everyone in his division.

You frauds can't have it both ways. Can't say GGG don't have to move up to prove anything but then say Canelo does. Canelo has a better resume and is the cash cow GGG wish he was by that logic what the F does he have to move up to 160 to fight the gutless wonder who refuses to fight anyone worth a damn. Cleaned out the division? He is the collector of vacant and paper belts. Who did he beat for any of his belts please tell me? And now GGG who bashed others for dragging fighters up had no choice and was forced to pull a p*ssy move and do EXACTLY what he just criticzed and is dragging a WW up 2 full weights to 160. He had other options but those would require him doing what he somehow demands OTHERS do which is move up in weight. Keep begging WW's and Super WW's to fight you because it's a lot easier then you moving up and proving yourself against 168lbers.

Trying to get a GGG fanboy to admit to the double standard they hold GGG too is like trying to get your mom to stop coming over to swallow my ****.