Comments Thread For: Pacquiao's Adviser Confident Vargas Fight Will Be an Exciting War

[Motorcity Cobra]

You keep responding to my posts yet you can't provide a simple guess.

If you were Nelson, which fight would you prefer:

Crawford vs Matthysse (USA vs Argentina)

as opposed to two foreigners (Ukraine vs Argentina),

Postol vs Matthysse

Which fight do you think would have done better in the ratings?

You keeps stating it as a fact when I keep asking you for proof. Let me put it this way and prove how your guess of Matthysse is wrong. Crawford won the WBO belt in his first fight at 140 in April of 2015. Two months after Matthysse's win over Provodnikov made him the mandatory for the WBC title eliminator. The interview you posted is from June 2015. So when did HBO want Matthysse to fight Crawford? Was it while Crawford was still at 135? Was it after Matthysse was going to fight for a title against Postol? Even Peter Nelson knows a Matthysse WBC champ against Postol WBO champ would be a bigger fight. Your guess makes no sense. Arum rejected a 135 Crawford for a 140 Matthysse?

[jqSide]

You keeps stating it as a fact when I keep asking you for proof. Let me put it this way and prove how your guess of Matthysse is wrong. Crawford won the WBO belt in his first fight at 140 in April of 2015. Two months after Matthysse's win over Provodnikov made him the mandatory for the WBC title eliminator. The interview you posted is from June 2015. So when did HBO want Matthysse to fight Crawford? Was it while Crawford was still at 135? Was it after Matthysse was going to fight for a title against Postol? Even Peter Nelson knows a Matthysse WBC champ against Postol WBO champ would be a bigger fight. Your guess makes no sense. Arum rejected a 135 Crawford for a 140 Matthysse?

This guy keeps ducking something that is so obvious.

Bob Arum: "Nelson has some ideas of who Crawford should fight and if he persists in his ideas and HBO continues to back him, then we'll take Crawford elsewhere. "

Who do you think HBO wanted for Crawford, past and present, that Arum rejected? Can't you even provide a guess??? Grrrr....

[Motorcity Cobra]

This guy keeps ducking something that is so obvious.

Bob Arum: "Nelson has some ideas of who Crawford should fight and if he persists in his ideas and HBO continues to back him, then we'll take Crawford elsewhere. "

Who do you think HBO wanted for Crawford, past and present, that Arum rejected? Can't you even provide a guess??? Grrrr....

You keep saying it was Matthysse but your timing is off. Was it when Crawford was at 135? Was it after Matthysse secured his shot at the WBC belt? Those are the only two possibilities and neither one makes sense.

[Billycostigan]

The greatest ducker and cherry picker in boxing history continues his trend of cherry picking fights he and his team know he can win. A brief history to those vaginas who truly believe that Pacman is a demi god:
Brandon Rios: An absolute garbage fight. Rios was coming off a loss and was a 135Ibs fighter for fcuk's sake. Rios is a human punching bag to top it off
Algieri: Prior to that fight, nobody on this planet knew who Algeiri was and it was a catch weight fight. One of many.
Mosley: Was coming off a UD loss to Floyd. How the fcuk do you justify fighting a guy that was just completely beaten up?
Hatton: Got destroyed by Floyd then spoon fed by Arum to Pacman.
Cotto: Weight drained to fight at 145
Oscar: Weight drained to fight at 147
Clottey: WTF!! Another puching bag that just came in for a paycheck
Jesse Vargas: Why? Why not Crawford or Thurman or Brooks or a real WW?
Pacman's record is littered with rematches after rematches (Marquez x4, Morales x3, Barrera x2, Bradley x3) - 12 fights Total.
Lastly, why can't Pac fight a true WW?? How is he considered an all time great when he has done nothing to fight real contenders.

Lol i'm not crying moron, it's just your logic is so astonishingly ****** I don't even know where to start ..
Hatton although stopped by Mayweather, was still the lineal champ at 140 and had come off two big wins including a stoppage victory over Paulie Malignaggi..
Oscar, although being weight drained and having not fought at 147 in years was still the favorite and the much bigger man over Manny.. Let's not forget Manny was 135 the fight before Oscar, and that was his first time at that weight as he was only a super featherweight prior at 130 ...
Cotto was 145 yes, However he swore during the build up the weight would not be an issue considering he weighed 146 for his fight before Manny Against clottey.... There's just way too much to Counter other than the fact that you obviously have a deep bias and disdain for Manny Pacquiao which leads me to believe you, 1 you probably don't know ***** about boxing, or 2, you're just a Floyd Mayweather fan that can't see anything outside of his accomplishments ..
Either way I'm sticking to my original comment, you're a moron

[jqSide]

You keep saying it was Matthysse but your timing is off. Was it when Crawford was at 135? Was it after Matthysse secured his shot at the WBC belt? Those are the only two possibilities and neither one makes sense.

LOL. This guy is making a big issue of the 135/140 difference. He's forgetting Gamboa fought Crawford at his weight and now he's saying Crawford couldn't have possibly fought Matthysse. Funny part is they're also saying Pac is ducking a 140 Crawford guy doe. Man these guys are all over the place when it suits them. It's so mind-boggling they always take it personally as if they're living in their guys' households. He claims to be a boxing fan, yet can't even provide opinions as to who HBO wanted for Crawford. Why are you in protection mode? What exactly is in it for you personally?

[Motorcity Cobra]

LOL. This guy is making a big issue of the 135/140 difference. He's forgetting Gamboa fought Crawford at his weight and now he's saying Crawford can't do the same thing for Matthysse. Funny part is they're also saying Pac is ducking a 140 Crawford guy doe. Man these guys are all over the place when it suits them. It's so mind-boggling they always take it personally as if they're living in their guys' households. He claims to be a boxing fan, yet can't even provide opinions as to who HBO wanted for Crawford. Why are you in protection mode? What exactly is in it for you personally?

So when did they offer Crawford the fight? When Crawford was at 135 or after Matthysse secured his shot for the WBC belt?

[sicko]

What "War" has Vargas ever been in? Pacquiao do know that Vargas is a Boxer and not a Brawler. Don't let the damn Sadam Ali fight fool you! Vargas know he doesn't have the Power to match Pacquiao but what he can't do is have some success boxing Pacquiao. Vargas does have a good chin and he does have some slickness to him, don't be shocked if Pacquiao doesn't look good vs Vargas

[P.K Dionysus]

You keep saying it was Matthysse but your timing is off. Was it when Crawford was at 135? Was it after Matthysse secured his shot at the WBC belt? Those are the only two possibilities and neither one makes sense.

Good Lord. Your patience is saintly.

[JASON SHAW]

Typical excuse making pac"turd" just like manny himself!

Lol i'm not crying moron, it's just your logic is so astonishingly ****** I don't even know where to start ..
Hatton although stopped by Mayweather, was still the lineal champ at 140 and had come off two big wins including a stoppage victory over Paulie Malignaggi..
Oscar, although being weight drained and having not fought at 147 in years was still the favorite and the much bigger man over Manny.. Let's not forget Manny was 135 the fight before Oscar, and that was his first time at that weight as he was only a super featherweight prior at 130 ...
Cotto was 145 yes, However he swore during the build up the weight would not be an issue considering he weighed 146 for his fight before Manny Against clottey.... There's just way too much to Counter other than the fact that you obviously have a deep bias and disdain for Manny Pacquiao which leads me to believe you, 1 you probably don't know ***** about boxing, or 2, you're just a Floyd Mayweather fan that can't see anything outside of his accomplishments ..
Either way I'm sticking to my original comment, you're a moron

The greatest ducker and cherry picker in boxing history continues his trend of cherry picking fights he and his team know he can win. A brief history to those vaginas who truly believe that Pacman is a demi god:
Brandon Rios: An absolute garbage fight. Rios was coming off a loss and was a 135Ibs fighter for fcuk's sake. Rios is a human punching bag to top it off
Algieri: Prior to that fight, nobody on this planet knew who Algeiri was and it was a catch weight fight. One of many.
Mosley: Was coming off a UD loss to Floyd. How the fcuk do you justify fighting a guy that was just completely beaten up?
Hatton: Got destroyed by Floyd then spoon fed by Arum to Pacman.
Cotto: Weight drained to fight at 145
Oscar: Weight drained to fight at 147
Clottey: WTF!! Another puching bag that just came in for a paycheck
Jesse Vargas: Why? Why not Crawford or Thurman or Brooks or a real WW?
Pacman's record is littered with rematches after rematches (Marquez x4, Morales x3, Barrera x2, Bradley x3) - 12 fights Total.
Lastly, why can't Pac fight a true WW?? How is he considered an all time great when he has done nothing to fight real contenders.

[Billycostigan]

The greatest ducker and cherry picker in boxing history continues his trend of cherry picking fights he and his team know he can win. A brief history to those vaginas who truly believe that Pacman is a demi god:
Brandon Rios: An absolute garbage fight. Rios was coming off a loss and was a 135Ibs fighter for fcuk's sake. Rios is a human punching bag to top it off
Algieri: Prior to that fight, nobody on this planet knew who Algeiri was and it was a catch weight fight. One of many.
Mosley: Was coming off a UD loss to Floyd. How the fcuk do you justify fighting a guy that was just completely beaten up?
Hatton: Got destroyed by Floyd then spoon fed by Arum to Pacman.
Cotto: Weight drained to fight at 145
Oscar: Weight drained to fight at 147
Clottey: WTF!! Another puching bag that just came in for a paycheck
Jesse Vargas: Why? Why not Crawford or Thurman or Brooks or a real WW?
Pacman's record is littered with rematches after rematches (Marquez x4, Morales x3, Barrera x2, Bradley x3) - 12 fights Total.
Lastly, why can't Pac fight a true WW?? How is he considered an all time great when he has done nothing to fight real contenders.

Wow nice rebuttal