Comments Thread For: 30 Day Weights: Gennady Golovkin 165, Kell Brook 176!

[Basco]

imo, that is epic ******ia.....

The following fighters definitely beat the untested/unproven Brook.....

Spence
Lara
Andrade
Canelo

The following fighters most likely beat the untested/unproven Brook.....

J-Rock
Charlo #1
Charlo #2
Trout

The following fighters go life-and death with Brook.....

Thurman
Bradley
Garcia
Cotto
Martirosyan

Yep, I said Martirosyan..... this is about styles.

And I bet I have forgotten some.

I have not forgotten what Carson Jones did to Brook, and Brook has only really beaten Porter since then.

Attempting to paint Brook as the best fighter from 147-154 is ******ed.

I agree 100% with this assessment! I just can't see anything "Special" or impressive for that matter! And only one decent name in his resume? Common!

[JRB123]

I have not forgotten what Carson Jones did to Brook, and Brook has only really beaten Porter since then.

Attempting to paint Brook as the best fighter from 147-154 is ******ed.

Exactly. He has one win against Shawn Porter and that's it.

To say that Brook beats the likes of Lara, Trout, J-Rock, and the Charlo brothers is crazy considering that many of them have been in bigger fights and have better wins than Brook's over Porter.

[aboutfkntime]

I could do with a laugh so why dont you provide your estimated revenue for a GGG-Saunders fight to "prove" that K2 (or anybody for that matter) can afford to pay Saunders what Brook is making

I'll even make it incredibly easy for you by limiting GGG's purse to $2 million and not $5 million

MORE than the 5mil that they were willing to split with Saunders.

A LOT more !

1.5mil for Saunders
+
2mil (min) for Golovkin
+
1.5mil (at least) for expenses

Come on man, Golovkin/Saunders would have generated A LOT MORE than 5mil, they would likely generate more than that just on the gate alone..... K2 weren't willing to split the purse fairly in order to make that fight.

K2/Hearn are willing to split more fairly because they both want that fight.

That fact is obvious because of the following.....
1) no way does Brook generate 3x more than Saunders
2) they only offered Saunders 1.5 mil

Pretty obvious really, I can't see why you don't get it.

They are " making " the fights they want, just like everyone else.

[Madison Boxing]

imo, that is epic ******ia.....

The following fighters definitely beat the untested/unproven Brook.....

Spence
Lara
Andrade
Canelo

The following fighters most likely beat the untested/unproven Brook.....

J-Rock
Charlo #1
Charlo #2
Trout

The following fighters go life-and death with Brook.....

Thurman
Bradley
Garcia
Cotto
Martirosyan

Yep, I said Martirosyan..... this is about styles.

And I bet I have forgotten some.

I have not forgotten what Carson Jones did to Brook, and Brook has only really beaten Porter since then.

Attempting to paint Brook as the best fighter from 147-154 is ******ed.

cotto and garcia would not go life and death with him i guarantee you that, neither would martisosyran. you say brooks untested/unproven and then you say spence beats him? is he tested and proven then? imo brook would beat bradley. thurman would be a close one, too close to call. dont think much of any of the jr middles to be honest (including canelo), in my opinion jr middleweight is the weight for people who arent good enough to be a welterweight, the quality is a lot lower.

[Madison Boxing]

So what ?

Saunders would sell out in 10 mins as well.

no he wouldnt, saunders isnt one third of the star that brook is over here, never fights on sky.

[Tomjas]

MORE than the 5mil that they were willing to split with Saunders.

A LOT more !

1.5mil for Saunders
+
2mil (min) for Golovkin
+
1.5mil (at least) for expenses

Come on man, Golovkin/Saunders would have generated A LOT MORE than 5mil, they would likely generate more than that just on the gate alone..... K2 weren't willing to split the purse fairly in order to make that fight.

K2/Hearn are willing to split more fairly because they both want that fight.

That fact is obvious because of the following.....
1) no way does Brook generate 3x more than Saunders
2) they only offered Saunders 1.5 mil

Pretty obvious really, I can't see why you don't get it.

They are " making " the fights they want, just like everyone else.

First of all, BJS has REJECTED 1.5 million so those numbers are completely irrelevant.

He wants 3 - 4 million MINIMUM!!!!!!!

Secondly, you continue to ignore the elephant in the room which is Hearn's relationship with Sky

That relationship brought 12 million quid in revenue for Joshua-Whyte and will do more for GGG-Brook

Warren has NO relationship with Sky and HBO arent going to stump up the cash for an unknown in the US so the fight wont happen UNLESS BJS reduces his asking price.

I have no particular interest in GGG-Brook and would prefer GGG-BJS (or Jacobs, Canelo, Andrade, DeGale, Jack, Dirrell, etc) but these fights will not happen unless everyone bar Canelo reduces their asking price because the promoters wont risk losing money just to satisfy you and me

The frustrating thing is that the fighters themselves know the numbers better than us and some are simply using the purse as an excuse not to fight GGG

At least BJS has been honest about it

[aboutfkntime]

cotto and garcia would not go life and death with him i guarantee you that, neither would martisosyran. you say brooks untested/unproven and then you say spence beats him? is he tested and proven then? imo brook would beat bradley. thurman would be a close one, too close to call.

Then, stop insinuating that Brook is the best fighter from 147-154.

Nobody thinks that, and nobody has ever insinuated ANYTHING like that.

He may not even be the best welter.

dont think much of any of the jr middles to be honest (including canelo), in my opinion jr middleweight is the weight for people who arent good enough to be a welterweight, the quality is a lot lower.

No, JMW is the division for people who can make 154.

[aboutfkntime]

First of all, BJS has REJECTED 1.5 million so those numbers are completely irrelevant.

He wants 3 - 4 million MINIMUM!!!!!!!

Secondly, you continue to ignore the elephant in the room which is Hearn's relationship with Sky

That relationship brought 12 million quid in revenue for Joshua-Whyte and will do more for GGG-Brook

Warren has NO relationship with Sky and HBO arent going to stump up the cash for an unknown in the US so the fight wont happen UNLESS BJS reduces his asking price.

I have no particular interest in GGG-Brook and would prefer GGG-BJS (or Jacobs, Canelo, Andrade, DeGale, Jack, Dirrell, etc) but these fights will not happen unless everyone bar Canelo reduces their asking price because the promoters wont risk losing money just to satisfy you and me

The frustrating thing is that the fighters themselves know the numbers better than us and some are simply using the purse as an excuse not to fight GGG

At least BJS has been honest about it

That "relationship" bought nothing..... that fight generated money because it was supported by the punters, regardless as to the channel.

Saunders would sell much better than Brook, that fight could easily be PPV.

Nothing will change this..... FACT: Saunders would be a dumbass if he fought Golovkin for less than half what Brook got paid.

According to you, that fight will never happen..... and I agree.

[DinoCop]

Brook just like any human being 4/3 water, but rest is shi1it.

[Tomjas]

That "relationship" bought nothing..... that fight generated money because it was supported by the punters, regardless as to the channel.

Saunders would sell much better than Brook, that fight could easily be PPV.

Nothing will change this..... FACT: Saunders would be a dumbass if he fought Golovkin for less than half what Brook got paid.

According to you, that fight will never happen..... and I agree.

BJS has 2 options if he wants to make massive money fighting GGG: either Warren has to repair his relationship with Sky or he needs to change promoters as he wont make **** fighting on Boxnation

As it stands, he is staring down the gun-barrel of going back to northern England where he will only draw a few thousand people whilst getting paid a fraction of what he could be paid for fighting GGG