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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostThat post is 100% correct, AND YOU KNOW IT
Grow up, and stop making excuses to defend your loud-mouth girlfriend.
GGG is a manufactured fighter, who has the exact resume he wanted.
Boxing Historians will not feel sorry for him, and make childish excuses..... like you just did.
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Originally posted by r1onnie2 View PostYou better check Hopkins track record, he has never ducked anyone or turned down any fight. He's fought Roy twice, Prime Jermaine Taylor 2, Trinadad, Dela Hoya, Pavlik, Tarver, Chad Dawson, Kovalev and the list goes on. So yeah he's earned the right to say what he wants. #TrueChampion
I've watched him for years.
Yes, he has the right to say what he wants. Anyone does. But it's embarrassing when he talks of frauds and people claiming that they want the best, only to take on other guys. Because that's exactly what HE DID.
He talked big about how he was desperate to rematch Roy in 2002, but it was all BS. He was offered $6m, and he refused and demanded $10m. He then spent a year out before coming back and fighting Morrade Hakkar.
The other thing to note is that he only moved up to LHW in 2006 when he had nowhere else to go.
He would never move up if he was in GG's current position.
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Originally posted by GaryMSchneider View Post...yes Hopkins has earned the right to say what he wants.....but what is the point of saying everything but the real truth.....Oscar's sock puppet babbles nonsense this time...
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Originally posted by robertzimmerman View PostI don't have to check his track record.
I've watched him for years.
Yes, he has the right to say what he wants. Anyone does. But it's embarrassing when he talks of frauds and people claiming that they want the best, only to take on other guys. Because that's exactly what HE DID.
He talked big about how he was desperate to rematch Roy in 2002, but it was all BS. He was offered $6m, and he refused and demanded $10m. He then spent a year out before coming back and fighting Morrade Hakkar.
The other thing to note is that he only moved up to LHW in 2006 when he had nowhere else to go.
He would never move up if he was in GG's current position.
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Boxing Historians will not feel sorry for him, and make childish excuses..... like you just did.
Originally posted by robertzimmerman View PostYeah, your post was 100% accurate, which is why you could only muster up the above as a reply.
..... what is even slightly inaccurate about " the above " ?
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Originally posted by r1onnie2 View PostHow is that what Hopkins did when he fought all the best? He jumped to LHW because there was nothing left to accomplish at MW and there wasn't anything popping at 168 at the time. What he's saying about GGG isn't a lie, no matter the reason GGG took the Brook fight he's still doing the same thing as Canelo by fighting a smaller guy. His reference to frauds being exposed is the fact everyone has their opinion but GGG wanted no parts of Ward by making the 164 demand.
I also believe that he is referring to Canelo.
EVERYONE heard that " anyone from 154-168 " schtick.
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Originally posted by r1onnie2 View PostHow is that what Hopkins did when he fought all the best? He jumped to LHW because there was nothing left to accomplish at MW and there wasn't anything popping at 168 at the time. What he's saying about GGG isn't a lie, no matter the reason GGG took the Brook fight he's still doing the same thing as Canelo by fighting a smaller guy. His reference to frauds being exposed is the fact everyone has their opinion but GGG wanted no parts of Ward by making the 164 demand.
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Originally posted by r1onnie2 View PostHow is that what Hopkins did when he fought all the best? He jumped to LHW because there was nothing left to accomplish at MW and there wasn't anything popping at 168 at the time. What he's saying about GGG isn't a lie, no matter the reason GGG took the Brook fight he's still doing the same thing as Canelo by fighting a smaller guy. His reference to frauds being exposed is the fact everyone has their opinion but GGG wanted no parts of Ward by making the 164 demand.
He jumped to LHW when he had everything to gain and nothing to lose.
Regarding Ward, that fight was never viable regardless of what GG said. Andre had been out for 19 months when he fought Paul Smith, and he'd have needed at least one tune up before committing to fighting a big fight back at SMW, which he hadn't fought at for about 2 years. Anybody who seriously thinks that Andre was there ready and raring to go is deluding themselves. By the time he'd have been ready, it wouldn't have been in GG's best interests. From late last year he was a 2 belt champ and he was in line to face Canelo. I'm not saying GG wanted Andre either, but he certainly didn't duck him, because Andre didn't want him either, and again, even if had've done, he wasn't in a position to fight before GG was in line to unify against Canelo. The timing was all wrong. Both guys are at different stages of their careers. Then there's HBO's stance to consider. It was simply never viable.
Regarding Brook, yes, the fight deserves criticism. But it was a last minute replacement for Eubank. GG had actually signed a contract to fight Eubank and handed it back it. And if it wasn't for Bernard's business partner not wanting a Canelo-GG fight, then GG would never be fighting Brook next.
I understand that Bernard is a legend and he's respected, and that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But his recent comments make him look bad.Last edited by robertzimmerman; 08-10-2016, 06:23 PM.
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