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  • Eff Pandas
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    #11
    Idk that he gots a lot to prove. More or less whitewashing the 2nd best guy in your division is pretty impressive.

    Now granted I'm sure along the lines of the long game sure TC gots a long ways to go before he's in Floyd or Manny regions & I still wanna see him in with a guy with heavy hands cuz I don't think he's been properly chin checked vs a guy his size yet, but I don't think he's gonna get "exposed" at this point. And I mean that in that he's proven himself to be very high level now & a loss to a Spence or Thurman would just be a L & not him proving that he's a bum as some will surely say when TC does catch a L.

    And I say this as a guy who's been not so high on TC.

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      #12
      Originally posted by -PBP-
      Convinced of what? That he can finish his career undefeated? Reign at 140 for a long time? Win titles at 147?

      It's like people say "I'm not convinced". Wait 3 years till the guy loses and says "see I told you so"

      He won the lineal championship in 2 weight divisions. There is not a single bigger accomplishment in the sport of boxing than becoming the world champion. He's done that in 2 weight classes.


      He is the real deal and proved it. There is nothing to debate. There's no convincing left to do.

      These types of threads are for prospects like Errol Spence. Not 2 division world champions.
      Convinced of him being the next Floyd or a HOF as I've seen people say. What he's done thus far is impressive but I'd like to see him get more victories against elite competition. It's going to take more than beating Postol and Gamboa to get him into the HOF. I think he could be a transcendent talent but I want to see more from him.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Idk that he gots a lot to prove. More or less whitewashing the 2nd best guy in your division is pretty impressive.

        Now granted I'm sure along the lines of the long game sure TC gots a long ways to go before he's in Floyd or Manny regions & I still wanna see him in with a guy with heavy hands cuz I don't think he's been properly chin checked vs a guy his size yet, but I don't think he's gonna get "exposed" at this point. And I mean that in that he's proven himself to be very high level now & a loss to a Spence or Thurman would just be a L & not him proving that he's a bum as some will surely say when TC does catch a L.

        And I say this as a guy who's been not so high on TC.
        When I say I want to see more before I'm convinced, I'm saying that in relation to him being compared to fighters like Floyd. I'm not calling him a hype job, he's obviously the real deal but I'm not convinced that he's the next great fighter from this generation. Time will tell...

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          #14
          Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
          At 140 he beats Troya and Burns which would make him undisputed at 140. He also beats Orozco, Imam and probably Barthlemy.

          He does have to go to 147 to be great though. And some trips to 154 if he wants to Floyd torchbearer.
          Fair enough, I agree although I'm not so sure about him going up to 154. TC isn't that big.

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          • -PBP-
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            #15
            Originally posted by Come on Man...
            When I say I want to see more before I'm convinced, I'm saying that in relation to him being compared to fighters like Floyd. I'm not calling him a hype job, he's obviously the real deal but I'm not convinced that he's the next great fighter from this generation. Time will tell...
            Fair enough. I have no issue with saying he's on track and in the race. Just a long ways to go to get to the finish line.

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            • lizard_man
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              #16
              Originally posted by Come on Man...
              There aren't many fighters that I would characterize as great right now. There are some really good young fighters out there with lots of promise, Crawford included. To me Andre Ward is the best fighter in boxing pending on the Kovalev fight. I know Dre hasn't fought great competition lately but he still dominated and cleaned out the SMW division, which is rare in boxing these days. Furthermore, I expect Ward to beat Kovalev relatively convincingly. I like Crawford and think he has a bright future but I need to see more from him before I call him great or the next Floyd. I don't think he'll ever be the next Floyd but there's no shame in that, there's only one Floyd Mayweather.
              So you could only name one. Andre ward. Gotcha.

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                #17
                Crawford is very good, one of my favorites right now but he is a long ways from Pac-May status. It would be great if he beat Garcia or Thurman next, lets hope it happens.

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                  #18
                  I would like to see if Crawford can become undisputed 140lb champion. Afterwards, either defend your throne or face Pac in a WW one-off. Crawford should try to stay at LWW for as long as possible so we can entertain him vs. Loma. Also, I would like if Crawford vs. Garcia could somehow materialize.
                  Last edited by kiaba360; 07-31-2016, 07:23 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Come on Man...
                    When I say I want to see more before I'm convinced, I'm saying that in relation to him being compared to fighters like Floyd. I'm not calling him a hype job, he's obviously the real deal but I'm not convinced that he's the next great fighter from this generation. Time will tell...
                    Well f#ck bro thats you & 99% of hardcore boxing fans. I honestly don't even think TC gots THAT big of a hype train saying he's gonna meet or exceed what Floyd or Manny did. I think Spence gots more heat than TC & he's proven less.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by lizard_man
                      So you could only name one. Andre ward. Gotcha.
                      There are lots of good fighters out there: Ward, Rigondeaux, Kovalev, Lomanchecko, Gonzalez, Crawford, Thurman, etc. How many of the contemporary fighters in the sport would you call great or destined for HOF status?

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