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  • Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
    hope you understand !
    "and on what ifs......YUP...the definition of controversy"

    what if is a suppositional question; question that asks someone to imagine what might happen or what might have happened. It is used to expand on an item under discussion...to discuss/explore possibilities.....but it does not readily relates to controversies...

    the thread topic itself "If Pac beats Crawford....do you place him above May in the TBE race?" is a suppositional question anchored on "If Pac beats Crawford.." a what if classic example....because pac vs crawford is still on the drawing board...

    would you attach controversy on the above?

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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      lol. You are one emotional dude.

      1. You just said this:


      Which makes it seem that you are implying if Pac won and Mayweather said it was due to his hands and shoulder, you'd say it is controversial and they should do it again? Am I wrong? Mayweather said he wasn't 100%.

      2. Can you pinpoint the moment when he threw out his shoulder? I doubt it, because no one ever mentioned this shoulder injury until the press conference.

      3. lol@ your stance on Freddie Roach.


      But carry on, man. We don't need to discuss this anymore. I'll give you the last say if you would like.
      "But carry on, man. We don't need to discuss this anymore. I'll give you the last say if you would like."

      this is not how you teach, buddy.....

      patience.....patience....

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      • Hatton would have beaten Floyd if he didn't suffer head trauma during the fight..Highly controversial needs a rematch.

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        • Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
          "But carry on, man. We don't need to discuss this anymore. I'll give you the last say if you would like."

          this is not how you teach, buddy.....

          patience.....patience....
          You can tell that he's never going to get it, or never going to admit that he gets it, because he doesn't want to get it.

          I've been involved in too many never ending conversations. I'd really like to avoid them from here on out

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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            You can tell that he's never going to get it, or never going to admit that he gets it, because he doesn't want to get it.

            I've been involved in too many never ending conversations. I'd really like to avoid them from here on out
            very well if that suits you....

            cheers!

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            • Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
              Hatton would have beaten Floyd if he didn't suffer head trauma during the fight..Highly controversial needs a rematch.

              Well according to super pact@rd boy and his logic it is controversial.


              The turnbuckle caused hattons disoriented state resulting in a KO for Floyd. Pacquiao is ahead on the ATG list because he didn't need to use the turnbuckle.


              Due to there hatred of Floyd there isn't a single win that isn't controversial.

              Berto - too easy
              Pac - too many to list
              Ortiz - sucker punch
              Mosely - too old. Threw the fight
              Canelo - too green. Weight drained
              Maidana - hugged too much

              I can keep going.


              49-0 burns their soul slowly.

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              • Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
                it is very clear that it is your non-acceptance of the fight outcome that drives you to look at the win as controversial......you say the win is controversial because the result was not as you expected.....

                you, having a doubt on a win and saying there is a score to be settled and clamoring for a rematch is understandable...

                people love to see fighters go at it with both at 100% condition....the ideal scenario....again, the ideal scenario...

                but sadly, what is ideal is not always the reality.....

                the reality is fighters get injured...even in training....

                and you should know that....and you should understand that....

                as i consider that injury is part and parcel of reality, i would even say a win is diminished...and people could clamor for a rematch.....

                to say that win is controversial is to question reality......

                also consider that not all injury is readily noticeable by the spectators...

                and who could guarantee that no injury will happen in the rematch? or at the trilogy?

                could you guarantee that?........
                Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
                "and on what ifs......YUP...the definition of controversy"

                what if is a suppositional question; question that asks someone to imagine what might happen or what might have happened. It is used to expand on an item under discussion...to discuss/explore possibilities.....but it does not readily relates to controversies...

                the thread topic itself "If Pac beats Crawford....do you place him above May in the TBE race?" is a suppositional question anchored on "If Pac beats Crawford.." a what if classic example....because pac vs crawford is still on the drawing board...

                would you attach controversy on the above?
                Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
                "But carry on, man. We don't need to discuss this anymore. I'll give you the last say if you would like."

                this is not how you teach, buddy.....

                patience.....patience....
                How on earth can you teach anything when you cant even grasp the concept of the real meaning behind the true definition of controversy?

                Obviously you dint read my post. Fighter get injured...no shlt. Been in the ring 77 times myself. I know all about injuries. Sometimes a fighter wins a fight due to another fighter sustaining a injury. Yes it happens. You can now stop over looking the reality of the situation and trying to avoid it with "injuries happen" No shlt they happen.
                But what you fail terribly to comprehend is because that injury happen It gave the opposing side an advantage to win. Almost a sure win. In which this is why we have weight classes in Boxing. HWs shouldnt be fighting FWs They try to get it as evenly matched as possible by controlling the weight. Sort of like a one legged man in a ass kicking contest. It just has to be fair for both fighters. although these injuries that happen are brought on by th opposing side due to a punch...thats a different story. Thats in the rule book. Dont know if you ever read that or not but it is.
                You cant dismiss a controversy win or loss for any fighter due to a injury that happen due to no fault of either fighter. In which led to one fighters decline in performance. How can you not understand that lol?

                How about Danny Garcia vs Lucas Matthysse. i picked Lucas to win. I thought the fight was going good and Lucas was giving Danny hell for a little while....Until a Punch opened up a nasty cut on Lucas and it changed the course of the fight... No controversy there.

                Mikey Garcia Orlando Salido...Mikey got his nose broke due to a accidental headbutt. It went to the score cards after the 8th round. They quit. They took the easy rd IMO. Some say It was bullshlt that You dont quit in Boxing. Some say they Understand that they were protecting the fighter. Can you see controversy yet? Wether you choose to or not the controversy is there. Salido was coming on strong and Garcia stood a chance to get ***ed up as the later rounds came on. Because he was fighting injured. This can go so many ways...No need to get into that topic....bottom line is there is controversy in the stoppage and the outcome of the fight was hindered by a injury not brought on by a punch and in such changed the outcome of the fight nd or what could have been. Controversy!!!!

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                • gettin heated...........hahahhah

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                  • Why would it be? Crawford is not a better, more accomplished fighter than Tim Bradley yet. Bradley was also a 2 division title holder and has a superior resume to that of Crawford.

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                    • Originally posted by -PBP- View Post
                      Why would it be? Crawford is not a better, more accomplished fighter than Tim Bradley yet. Bradley was also a 2 division title holder and has a superior resume to that of Crawford.
                      Because Crawford is "the" man right now....and the man who beats the man becomes the man no?

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