Crawford will have problems with Pacquiao??

[daggum]

floyd made it look easy? pac landed the much better punches and floyd had a lot of trouble hitting pac clean. sounds like it was pretty difficult for him. floyd only won because of his reputation and nothing more. sure as hell wasn't based on the punches.

[StefanTosic]

Manny threw and landed even less..im not sure how yall say Floyd lost that fight,it was a clear victory

It's a good point you made that even Pac threw less shots than ever because it's 100% true and that was a smart gameplan by Floyd. However, despite the fact that Spoon is unable to let it go, the video he's posting every day about the real number of shots landed is 100% true. I was clear to me it even watching it live. It's clear that compubox guys are as corrupted as USADA.

You never saw me here before complaining about the outcome of the fight, because the fight happened 6 years too late anyways so I didn't wanted to talk too much about it, but here it goes. Watching it live I had it a draw. Even if Floyd won (which I wouldn't argue, depends on what you are looking for as a judge), it would be 7-5, nothing more. He moved very well in the ring, preventing him throwing punches.

At the same time Manny looked at his worst ever and it had nothing to do with Floyd, it was due to his non existing movement. I can never forget when the fight started, comparing in my head how Manny looked energetic against Oscar right from the first bell, versus being stationary against Floyd. Ok maybe it was a gameplan not to fall in Floyd traps, and he did it very well but he was too cautious, taking less risk. Even when he hurt Floyd a couple of times, he let him off the hook. It never happened to him before, even in the late stages of his career. It was undeniable that his shoulder was really hurt.

The thing he did much better than any other of Floyd's opponent, and I was the first to mention it, was how many times he made Floyd miss and did something Floyd was doing to everybody else - counter him a lot. He beat him in counter-punching department, Floyd never got countered that much.

Now about the HBO crew praising Floyd. It's not a conspiracy theory, HBO was ****ting on him all the time until the fight happened and it happened when Floyd had only 2 more fights left on Showtime contract, with everybody predicting a rematch with Pac in the future. So they would do anything to get the rematch on their channel, instead of sharing it with Showtime. You watched Pacquiao vs Bradley 3? Max and others were praising Floyd during that fight, talking about he schooled Manny, it was clear they have an agenda.

[StefanTosic]

TBH no one won that night. Both fighters embarrassed themselves. One ran, the other couldn't catch him. I will probably blame Floyd more for that. But anyway, they have both had their fair share of challenges so I guess the pay was well deserved. They will both be remembered as greats but Manny's fights will last a lifetime. I still like Floyd's way of fighting but perhaps if he wasn't as gun shy, they would be more interesting.

Yeah! I agree totally, except maybe I would blame them equally.

[BillyBoxing]

Crawford has improved from the Gamboa fight. Now he will be a nightmare for Pacquiao because Pacquiao is not as good with mobile targets. Crawford is an intelligent fighter who downloads people's strategies early in the fight and adjusts accordingly. Pacquiao is good, has power but Crawford will beat him. He could even take him out.

Sugar Ray Crawford could figure out Postol stiff "one-two straight punches" game.

Faire enough, let's see how he deal with a past it but yet ATG.

Pacquiao is lot smarter than he's credited as a fighter.

Yall act like Mayweather is a Genius, but vs Manny, his reach advantage is mainly what allowed him to control this fight.

[Mr. Philadel]

Damn it's crazy....I've always had and always will favor Pac in that match up...not saying Pac can get old as BHop and still beat Bud, but RIGHT NOW I see Pac beating the youngster up

I saw the thread title and was coming in to post that Floyd himself even stated that Pac was better than he thought and he now understand why he's a ATG after their fight...he was even caught on cam in the locker room telling his peeps that "that lil mfer can fight"....so seeing that it was actually Floyd who said this is kinda funny lol

[Helm]

Pacquiao is way bigger and stronger than Crawford.

I really can't see how you could think he can beat Pacquiao.

Manny, while old and shot, is still too much for smaller Crawford.

[Helm]

Postol didn't have power and didn't counterpunch, he was a bit shy and too cautious and that's why Crawford won pretty easily.

Manny is not afraid of being hit and can definetly take a punch. Also, manny is a very effective counter-puncher so I think he can neutralize Crawford one way or another.

don't get me wrong Crawford is a well rounded fighter and deserve to stay where he is, but Pacquiao is still a level or two above.

[BillyBoxing]

It's a good point you made that even Pac threw less shots than ever because it's 100% true and that was a smart gameplan by Floyd. However, despite the fact that Spoon is unable to let it go, the video he's posting every day about the real number of shots landed is 100% true. I was clear to me it even watching it live. It's clear that compubox guys are as corrupted as USADA.

You never saw me here before complaining about the outcome of the fight, because the fight happened 6 years too late anyways so I didn't wanted to talk too much about it, but here it goes. Watching it live I had it a draw. Even if Floyd won (which I wouldn't argue, depends on what you are looking for as a judge), it would be 7-5, nothing more. He moved very well in the ring, preventing him throwing punches.

At the same time Manny looked at his worst ever and it had nothing to do with Floyd, it was due to his non existing movement. I can never forget when the fight started, comparing in my head how Manny looked energetic against Oscar right from the first bell, versus being stationary against Floyd. Ok maybe it was a gameplan not to fall in Floyd traps, and he did it very well but he was too cautious, taking less risk. Even when he hurt Floyd a couple of times, he let him off the hook. It never happened to him before, even in the late stages of his career. It was undeniable that his shoulder was really hurt.

The thing he did much better than any other of Floyd's opponent, and I was the first to mention it, was how many times he made Floyd miss and did something Floyd was doing to everybody else - counter him a lot. He beat him in counter-punching department, Floyd never got countered that much.

Now about the HBO crew praising Floyd. It's not a conspiracy theory, HBO was ****ting on him all the time until the fight happened and it happened when Floyd had only 2 more fights left on Showtime contract, with everybody predicting a rematch with Pac in the future. So they would do anything to get the rematch on their channel, instead of sharing it with Showtime. You watched Pacquiao vs Bradley 3? Max and others were praising Floyd during that fight, talking about he schooled Manny, it was clear they have an agenda.

I think Cotto did better than Manny maybe, but I can only think about Cotto.


Mayweather's win is clear IMO (guys like Spoon are deluded) but widely exagerated by american medias.

I had 8-4 for Floyd but I'm taking in count "Las Vegas judgement" counting "pot shots" and "shows special effects".

I guess 7-5 is maybe the fairest statement.

Yet, Manny was quite impressive, but somehow looked shy and sometimes not that much concerned.
I think the Marquez KO didn't help.

My opinion is once Manny get koed by KingKez, Floyd decided to fight Manny, they waited him to get back with some wins then made the fight, 6 years too late as you stated.

[BillyBoxing]

Pacquiao is way bigger and stronger than Crawford.

I really can't see how you could think he can beat Pacquiao.

Manny, while old and shot, is still too much for smaller Crawford.

Crawford is taller, has a longer reach, and is heavier on fight night 152 while Manny usually comes at 150.

So I don't know how you figured out Crawford is smaller than Pac.

[HarvardBlue]

I give Crawford a good chance but it will be a tough fight. Mayweather's quick counters made Pacquioa hesitant to mount an offense. I'm not sure Crawford is that quick. He can definitely hurt Pacquiao and that could make a difference but he would have to hurt him consistently, maybe get a knock down or two. The only comparison I see with Crawford and Mayweather is his ability to adjust and his unpredictable offense.