Roach is overrated.

[Sledgeweather17]

Roach is one of the most overrated trainers ever, and last night proved it. Pacquiao got exposed by Floyd, Cotto was looking like a new fighter until he fought Canelo, and now Postol got dominated by Crawford. Know what they all have in common? They all are/were trained by Roach.

If he hadn't found and trained a great talent like Pacquiao, I doubt anyone would even know who he is.

Didn't roach also train James Toney before Pacquiao?

[Sledgeweather17]

Well, if the fighter is mediocre a trainer can't win the fight for him alone.

Trainers are overrated. Is the fighter that have to actually win the fight by controlling his own mind and body and defeat his opponent.

Not true. Like in any other field, there are those people who are good at their job because they are innovative and can think for themselves and on their feet, BUT there are also those who are good because they are very good and following instructions and executing what their told to perfection.

In that respect, some fighters will obviously be more reliant on the trainer because they can't think for themselves or innovate on their own, but if you tell em what to do they will execute it to perfection, in exactly the way you imagined it in your own head when you told him.

This where the trainer can take the blame for not being able to read the fight and give the proper instructions.

[Damn Wicked]

All trainers are overrated. It has a lot more to do with the fighter at this stage. Roach trains a lot of guys. He spreads himself thin. I think a great trainer is one a fighter is comfortable and willing to give his all to. Game planning in boxing goes a long way, but most of the good trainers can put together a good enough game plan.

You took the words right outta my mouth. "All trainers are overrated".