Who Should Rank Higher: Holyfield or Lewis?

[xrhythmxnxbluesx]

i say lewis... but no one can ever questioned holyfield's heart and courage...

[warped]

Vitali's face was a mess, i dont see the problem?? It doesnt matter who was ahead on the score card because injurys stopped the fight.

Lewis beat Vitali fairly.

Riveting...

[Floydmayweather]

Gotta of with Lewis on this one.

[Sir_Jose]

Are you kidding me? I hope this doesn't turn into a ridiculous semantic arguement but here goes.

Clearly Vitali was winning the fight. Clearly he was ahead on all score cards. If Vitali had suffered the cut during training and the fight had to be cancelled, would you proclaim Lennox the winner?

There is a certain amount of common sense that has to be factored in here, if you decide at some point you want to be able to make your own decisions. When I stated that there was no clear winner I was talking about the actual fighting, not the decision handed down by the doctor/judges. Vitali was leading, but Lewis did manage to do some heavy damage. It was decided that to call it a draw wouldn't be fair to the fighter who was cleared to continue, ETC.



I didn't say he had to avenge anything. I'm stating that Lennox knew Vitali was out boxing him and he encouraged a rematch because on some level he knew he didn't rightfully beat Vitali but went back on his word because it's too great of a risk.

Do you think there was a clear winner of Couture/Belfort II? How about Fedor/Nog II? Would you still claim Lennox won if the bout was ruled a No Contest?

Oh god.

Listen it doesn't matter who was winning. All that matters is Vitali could not continue to to cuts cause by PUNCHES from Lewis. Thats a TKO win period end of story. No it was not decided those rules have been in place for decades.

[Neuraxis]

*rolleyes*

Yes there was a clear winner if you dont think so then it shows you have an agenda.

Your asking a fighter to avenge a win.

Though I agree with you on the fact that Lewis should rank above Holyfield, I obviosly disagree here. Lewis should have retired after the Tyson win instead of hording his belt for nearly another 2 years. Lewis was too old to fight Klitschko and even Danny Williams can beat Tyson. Lewis and Steward should have known better and then this would not be such a huge topic and Vitali could have gotten the WBC belt a year earlier.

[Samuraieaux]

Both are great, both beat Tyson, fair and square. As far as I'm concerned, Tyson revived Heavyweight boxing with his career and is the best of his time. But between Holyfield and Lewis, I'd have to say Holyfield, because he fought Tyson when he was more lethal, and wasn't overly upset about the ear thing, but then again, he had no right to be, he brought it onto himself with those butts...
I think if the two were put up to fight each other Lennox would win pretty easily (if they were both in prime) but I just think Evander has accomplished more and is more famous, especially because he's the guy that got Tyson THAT angry.

[warped]

Oh god.

Listen it doesn't matter who was winning. All that matters is Vitali could not continue to to cuts cause by PUNCHES from Lewis. Thats a TKO win period end of story. No it was not decided those rules have been in place for decades.

Way to dodge and take the sheep route, chief.

[Sir_Jose]

Way to dodge and take the sheep route, chief.

Dodge what?

How am I "dodging" something by going by THE RULES

[The Phantom Menace]

Lennox Lewis is ahead of Holyfield because he was the more dominant of the two in their era.

[GasPed]

I gotta be honest - Holyfield had/has perhaps the biggest heart of any HW champion. He overcame huge physical deficits to take the title against all odds. But frankly his record as a heavy just doesn't stack up. The only opponents he beat that I can give him any real props for are Bowe (who in turn beat him twice), Tyson (but not a prime Tyson), and maybe Ray Mercer. On the other hand, Lewis beat prime Ruddock, prime Morrison, prime Golota, prime Klitschko, prime Tua, and a past prime Tyson, Mercer and Holyfield. We're talking about some real monsters here. While Lewis didn't have a great chin, he had just about every other physical advantage you can think of, and it showed in his ability to consistently (when focused) beat all challengers. With Holy, it was always a question of whether his heart advantage could overcome the physical disadvantages, and that was no sure thing. Sorry Vander, but I gotta give the nod to Lewis.