Arreola proved Wilders average

[The Gambler1981]

People from the beginning are always have been caught up in appearences with Wilder. Yes he does not move in a standard boxing way, and his technique not how you wold teach anyone.

However, appearance is only judging a book by it's cover and it is why detractors have been so off on Wilder because they get hung up on the negatives that they miss the positives that help to make up for it. He is not an easy guy to fight because no one fight like him and one mess up puts someone in a real problem against him, not to mention he is long which allows him to get away with fighting rather open because you can be open when out of punching range of the other guy. Someone will eventually take advantage especially as injuries pile up and he loses his great athleticism, but that doesn't make him average either.

[TheUnbiased]

People from the beginning are always have been caught up in appearences with Wilder. Yes he does not move in a standard boxing way, and his technique not how you wold teach anyone.

However, appearance is only judging a book by it's cover and it is why detractors have been so off on Wilder because they get hung up on the negatives that they miss the positives that help to make up for it. He is not an easy guy to fight because no one fight like him and one mess up puts someone in a real problem against him, not to mention he is long which allows him to get away with fighting rather open because you can be open when out of punching range of the other guy. Someone will eventually take advantage especially as injuries pile up and he loses his great athleticism, but that doesn't make him average either.

You went full detail on how he lacks certain skills and how he will lose but hes not average you say. He needs a new trainer I dont dislike him he has potential.

[The Gambler1981]

You went full detail on how he lacks certain skills and how he will lose but hes not average you say. He needs a new trainer I dont dislike him he has potential.

His potential has been filled really he is what he is, he is not a perfect fighter but from what he came from nobody should have expected him to look perfect.

He has turned his raw athletic talent into a workable fighting style and achieved being a top 3 or 4 heavyweight which most people might call a weak division but Wilder would still be an elite heavy at 4. Considering a large majority though he would never get even close to this current level, that is not average.

Yea he will lose eventually because he is a flawed fighter, and eventually he will lose. I am a big fan and have been since the beginning defending him the whole way against people who never even thought he would get to average, but being real most heavies eventually get knocked out so I would expect Wilder to meet that fate because he is a gunslinger and there is really only one way it ends for that sort of guy.

Just because he doesn't do thing a standard way that looks off does not mean he can't be extremely effective, which he has learned to be. Boxing is about getting the job done and Wilder while not always looking pretty and smooth does know how to use his attributes in a proper way. A lot of that is up to Breland who has turned him from this totally raw dude to an effective top end fighter, so he doesn't need a new trainer either because he clearly listens to Breland if he didn't he would have fell short long ago.