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  • The Gambler1981
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    #51
    His left hand was money, and the best thing that came from the fight was that he was forced to rely on the left which should give him even more confidence in that hand going forward. It was against Arreola who is essentially a punching bag with arms and a hot dog neck so that tempers what Wilder was able to do.

    Still going in there with his main weapon busted and continuing to take Arreola apart with just his off hand which very few respected at all is something to ponder.

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      #52
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      His left hand was money, and the best thing that came from the fight was that he was forced to rely on the left which should give him even more confidence in that hand going forward. It was against Arreola who is essentially a punching bag with arms and a hot dog neck so that tempers what Wilder was able to do.

      Still going in there with his main weapon busted and continuing to take Arreola apart with just his off hand which very few respected at all is something to ponder.
      That's literally the only possible thing that could wow you from this fight. Maybe if his biceps and hand were fine he could have blasted him out sooner. I just don't know how good Wilder really is though.

      I mean I like him and want to see him succeed. He can knock out anybody he lands on but he really doesn't move like Floyd. I know most of you are just trolling but damn lol. I think he moves pretty damn awkward. I think he could beat Fury whose just as big & awkward. Joshua and Ortiz I think will take him to hell and back unless he can finish them quickly.

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        #53
        Originally posted by $BloodyNate$
        That's literally the only possible thing that could wow you from this fight. Maybe if his biceps and hand were fine he could have blasted him out sooner. I just don't know how good Wilder really is though.

        I mean I like him and want to see him succeed. He can knock out anybody he lands on but he really doesn't move like Floyd. I know most of you are just trolling but damn lol. I think he moves pretty damn awkward. I think he could beat Fury whose just as big & awkward. Joshua and Ortiz I think will take him to hell and back unless he can finish them quickly.
        He is athletic in fluid in a certain sense because I think some of the things he does can't be done without freaky athleticism. From a boxing technique standpoint he is not smooth or textbook but being awkward can be very effective especially given his size and range.

        Plus his range seems even further extended because he is explosive so he goes from being halfway across the ring to landing really fast.

        Joshua, Fury and Wlad present a problem because they are just as tall and rangy so he will get hit on more of his mistakes because he will just be in range more frequently. Tough to say how Wilder does because I think he does things that will be problematic for them but they can also take advantage of things he does.


        Ortiz I think is the most overrated guy in boxing period. Ortiz is a lefty which makes him tricky for heavies that rely on the jab which Wilder does at times, but Wilder's best punch is the straight right which is the southpaw killer which he would be firing slightly down which gives Wilder the better leverage. Ortiz got cracked by Jennings' right a bunch, just Jennings has little power, he can't eat rights from Wilder and just fight through it like with Jennings.
        Last edited by The Gambler1981; 07-17-2016, 01:46 PM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by MikeEhrmantraut
          i hope he does fight Fury
          We'll find out about wilder when he faces someone with his height and reach. He's getting good with the style that breland is teaching him, but part of it is down to his opponents not being able reach him, so just not punching when he pulls away with his hands down. When he fights a top fighter with a comparable reach, i think he'll find himself getting hit when he wasn't expecting to.

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            lol arreola was ten times worse of an opponent than dominic wade. he just lost to fred kassi and travis kauffman while also getting knocked out hard against stirvirne. he was a human punch bag/statue. wilder didn't fall off balance because arreola was in statue mode. zelenoff tried harder and thats not a joke at all.

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              #56
              Originally posted by considerthis
              We'll find out about wilder when he faces someone with his height and reach. He's getting good with the style that breland is teaching him, but part of it is down to his opponents not being able reach him, so just not punching when he pulls away with his hands down. When he fights a top fighter with a comparable reach, i think he'll find himself getting hit when he wasn't expecting to.
              That is the problem right there, to be fair to Wilder though I think those guys will run into the same issue with Wilder because they have the exact same advantage normally. Guys of that size, range, athleticism, ability don't grow on trees so it is a hard thing to really prepare for.

              At least for Wilder he did experience getting tagged with Duhaupus' jab repeatedly, so he at least dealt with it against a somewhat capable fighter.

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                #57
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                He is athletic in fluid in a certain sense because I think some of the things he does can't be done without freaky athleticism. From a boxing technique standpoint he is not smooth or textbook but being awkward can be very effective especially given his size and range.

                Plus his range seems even further extended because he is explosive so he goes from being halfway across the ring to landing really fast.

                Joshua, Fury and Wlad present a problem because they are just as tall and rangy so he will get hit on more of his mistakes because he will just be in range more frequently. Tough to say how Wilder does because I think he does things that will be problematic for them but they can also take advantage of things he does.


                Ortiz I think is the most overrated guy in boxing period. Ortiz is a lefty which makes him tricky for heavies that rely on the jab which Wilder does at times, but Wilder's best punch is the straight right which is the southpaw killer which he would be firing slightly down which gives Wilder the better leverage. Ortiz got cracked by Jennings' right a bunch, just Jennings has little power, he can't eat rights from Wilder and just fight through it like with Jennings.
                Very good breakdown. Ortiz isnt young either so this would be a good time to try to make that fight. Wilder looks set on Joshua & Fury but he could be waiting a minute since both are lined up with other fights. Depends on if Joshua fights Parker first i guess.

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